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Originally posted by Sparko View PostSo it IS evidence then. I already said you might not think it is good evidence from your perspective. I doubt any evidence would be good from your point of view. But it IS evidence. Which is more evidence than you have.The NT accounts ARE eyewitness accounts, Tassman. Except Luke, which was Luke gathering eyewitness accounts and publishing them instead. So you could call that second hand.
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so we should never believe anecdotal evidence or eye witness accounts? Well there goes our entire justice system.
None of the gospels are eyewitness accounts. They were written anonymously and late based on hearsay.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI was referring to the NT documents about Jesus' resurrection.
But yeah a lot of the OT books are eye witness too. The first 5 books are written by Moses though and were revealed to him by God.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostRight, so there were no eye witnesses to the creation or to Adam and Eve's fall, right. So you don't need eyewitness accounts in order to believe in talking snakes, magic fruit, and cherubim with flaming swords? Right?
I believe in God for many reasons. What does that have to do with the topic?
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postso we should never believe anecdotal evidence or eye witness accounts?
Well there goes our entire justice system.
They are eye witness accounts. You might want to dismiss them but that is what they are.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostAn anecdotal claim is not the same as eyewitness reportage. The former is not necessarily true or reliable, it's often hearsay evidence and cannot be deemed reliable in its veracity.
No. Eyewitness reportage is important in the justice system, anecdotal accounts not so much.
There is no good reason to regard the gospels as eyewitness accounts. They are anonymous and compiled far too late to be regarded as such.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWell you are the one calling these anecdotal accounts, they are in fact eye witness reports from people who have gone through the event.
Nobody ever said you had to believe them. Millions of others do. It's a consensus!
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThey are accounts from people who think they have gone through the event.
But consensus Tassy! Consensus!!!!!!!!! 90% of the world's population!
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostYou can say that about any incident in history.
The jews who lived through the holocaust are accounts of people who think they have gone through the event.But consensus Tassy! Consensus!!!!!!!!!90% of the world's population!
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Then why do you constantly argue for a consensus without providing evidence?
A great many people throughout human history have believed in a diverse variety of gods and spirits and totems. So?
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThen why do you constantly argue for a consensus without providing evidence?
How many of those Gods actually came to earth and lived among us and revealed himself to them?
Jesus is part of history. Not myth.
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