Interaction Problem Involving the Soul and Body

[Tassman]

Where's your evidence of this?

Kerry Packer, former Australian media magnate, famously told a story on his own TV network after he was clinically dead for 7 minutes following a heart attack. He said: "and what did I see while I was dead? Answer (with an evil cackle) "NOTHING!" I suspect that this applies to most people.

Research is now revealing scientific explanations for virtually all of the common features of those that do have NDE's:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...nd-near-death/

[Sparko]

You simply repeat yourself and have provided no evidence of the mind not surviving death.

[Sparko]

Kerry Packer, former Australian media magnate, famously told a story on his own TV network after he was clinically dead for 7 minutes following a heart attack. He said: "and what did I see while I was dead? Answer (with an evil cackle) "NOTHING!" I suspect that this applies to most people.

Research is now revealing scientific explanations for virtually all of the common features of those that do have NDE's:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...nd-near-death/

If his mind didn't survive death, how did he retain his mind when he was revived? Obviously his mind survived his death and was there when he was revived.

[Tassman]

You simply repeat yourself and have provided no evidence of the mind not surviving death.

There is NO evidence of the mind surviving death apart from unverified anecdotal accounts. If I'm repeating myself it's because nothing more can be said.

[Tassman]

If his mind didn't survive death, how did he retain his mind when he was revived? Obviously his mind survived his death and was there when he was revived.

Well to paraphrase the Munchkins: He was only merely dead, not really, sincerely, truly dead.

[Sparko]

There is NO evidence of the mind surviving death apart from unverified anecdotal accounts. If I'm repeating myself it's because nothing more can be said.

You just said there was no evidence and then listed evidence.

[Sparko]

Well to paraphrase the Munchkins: He was only merely dead, not really, sincerely, truly dead.

So you are saying that you have no evidence that the mind doesn't survive death then?

Obviously if he was clinically dead and when he revived he still had a mind then the mind survives death.

[JimL]

So you are saying that you have no evidence that the mind doesn't survive death then?

Obviously if he was clinically dead and when he revived he still had a mind then the mind survives death.

And you have no evidence that the mind survives death, because if someone is said to come back to life, then they weren't really dead to begin with. When you know of someone who has actually died and resurrected from their grave, other than biblical fairy tales i.e, then let us know.

[Sparko]

And you have no evidence that the mind survives death, because if someone is said to come back to life, then they weren't really dead to begin with. When you know of someone who has actually died and resurrected from their grave, other than biblical fairy tales i.e, then let us know.

Since the bible isn't fairy tales but eye witness documents, it does indeed count as evidence. And yet you still have ZERO evidence to the contrary. Sucks to be you.

[Tassman]

You just said there was no evidence and then listed evidence.

apart from unverified anecdotal accounts

Since the bible isn't fairy tales but eye witness documents, it does indeed count as evidence. And yet you still have ZERO evidence to the contrary. Sucks to be you.

There is no eyewitness accounts of the NT stories. So again, hearsay might be "evidence" but It's not good evidence.

[Tassman]

So you are saying that you have no evidence that the mind doesn't survive death then?

Obviously if he was clinically dead and when he revived he still had a mind then the mind survives death.

[JimL]

Since the bible isn't fairy tales but eye witness documents, it does indeed count as evidence. And yet you still have ZERO evidence to the contrary. Sucks to be you.

Really, who were the eye witnesses to Genesis "documents" and Adam and Eve in the Garden?

[Sparko]

apart from unverified anecdotal accounts

So it IS evidence then. I already said you might not think it is good evidence from your perspective. I doubt any evidence would be good from your point of view. But it IS evidence. Which is more evidence than you have.

There is no eyewitness accounts of the NT stories. So again, hearsay might be "evidence" but It's not good evidence.

The NT accounts ARE eyewitness accounts, Tassman. Except Luke, which was Luke gathering eyewitness accounts and publishing them instead. So you could call that second hand.

[Sparko]

And yet his mind survived death. Proof that you are wrong!

Besides, all it takes is ONE case to prove your claim wrong, since you believe there is no surviving death. So even if you have 100 cases of someone saying they don't remember an afterlife after being revived, all it takes is one to show you are wrong. Maybe the other guys are going to hell instead. Did you ever think about that? And since that doesn't happen until the judgment day, they could just remain in soul sleep until then. [cue twilight zone music]

[Sparko]

Really, who were the eye witnesses to Genesis "documents" and Adam and Eve in the Garden?

I was referring to the NT documents about Jesus' resurrection.

But yeah a lot of the OT books are eye witness too. The first 5 books are written by Moses though and were revealed to him by God.