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Here in the Philosophy forum we will talk about all the "why" questions. We'll have conversations about the way in which philosophy and theology and religion interact with each other. Metaphysics, ontology, origins, truth? They're all fair game so jump right in and have some fun! But remember...play nice!
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostA wold baying to get a mate is instinctive, not 'reasoned' behaviour
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI never brought up a wolf baying at the moon, you did. I just said a wolf doesn't even pay attention to the moon because it understands that it is not food and not close enough to attack.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostWhether it is a wolf baying at the moon or baying for a mate, it is instinctive, not 'reasoned' behaviour
We were discussing whether seeing something was "awareness" or did there have to have some reasoning in order to be "aware" or observe something. You are the one who went off on wolf calls and baying at the moon.
Why wolves howl has nothing to do with observing something or being aware of what they observe.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI already said it was for communication. They howl to let other wolves know where they are, that prey is nearby, that this is their territory, etc.
We were discussing whether seeing something was "awareness" or did there have to have some reasoning in order to be "aware" or observe something. You are the one who went off on wolf calls and baying at the moon.
Why wolves howl has nothing to do with observing something or being aware of what they observe.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThe point throughout has been that creatures cannot react or reason about anything unless they are aware it exists. Awareness comes first, you have not demonstrated otherwise.
No Tassman, the argument is that in a logical argument, reasoning comes first, and awareness requires reasoning. You can't even seem to keep up with your own argument.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostNo Tassman, the argument is that in a logical argument, reasoning comes first, and awareness requires reasoning. You can't even seem to keep up with your own argument.
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