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Atheism And Moral Progress
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Originally posted by JimL View PostNobody decides what is best seer, it is either in our best interests or it is not. We only have opinions, and come to conclusions based on experience and reason, but, with regard to what is best for society as a whole, there is always a "best good" regardless of whether we recognise it as the better of 2 options or not. Would you say that there is actually a best system of governance regardless of the numerous types tried? I think you would.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostNobody decides what is best seer, it is either in our best interests or it is not. We only have opinions, and come to conclusions based on experience and reason, but, with regard to what is best for society as a whole, there is always a "best good" regardless of whether we recognise it as the better of 2 options or not. Would you say that there is actually a best system of governance regardless of the numerous types tried? I think you would.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostSo there is some objective standard of "best" and "good" out there that doesn't depend on whether anyone recognizes it or not?
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Originally posted by JimL View PostSure, but it need have nothing to do with God, or devine law. There are simply human behaviors which better serve the interests of human society as a whole and so individuals in general. Not stealing needn't be a devine law in order that it be "objectively" in the "best interests" of human beings living together in community to not steal from each other.
Therefore the objective standard of "good" exists independent of people or of society itself. You just argued for God.
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When is your baptism?
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWhen is your baptism?Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostNo Tass I am not missing the point, show me from scripture where interracial marriage is prohibited. You know that is not the case.
Christian biblical morality has historically been interpreted according to the moral values of the day. And, today homosexuality is widely acceptable; the biblical passages concerning it have been and are being re-evaluated by the majority of Christians.
I already explained this Tass. Christians are not commanded to execute any man. We are not Jews living under the Mosaic legal code. Christ will judge all evil doers at His return.Originally posted by seer View PostYou really are slow...Last edited by Tassman; 08-03-2018, 11:02 PM.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostInterracial marriage was prohibited in scripture according to the Dutch Reform Church in South Africa, hence apartheid. Slavery was acceptable, according to the Southern Baptist Convention, resulting in the formation of the largest Protestant Church in the US.
Christian biblical morality has historically been interpreted according to the moral values of the day. And, today homosexuality is widely acceptable; the biblical passages concerning it have been and are being re-evaluated by the majority of Christians.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostNo, Jim. If it is independent of what anyone thinks of as "best" and "good" then it can't be "simply human behaviors which better serve the interests of human society as a whole and so individuals in general" - because that requires someone to decide what it better for society, and you said it doesn't matter what anyone thinks.
Therefore the objective standard of "good" exists independent of people or of society itself. You just argued for God.
Thanks for playing.
When is your baptism?
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Originally posted by seer View PostTass, I don't care what a particular denomination may or may not have taught, I want to know where in Scripture interracial marriage is prohibited. You can not find that in Scripture and you know it.
Paul is taken literally by those opposed to homosexuality (Jesus never mentions it) and interpreted according to perceived historical context by those who support it...as is becoming more common in the free world.Last edited by Tassman; 08-05-2018, 12:13 AM.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostNo, Jim. If it is independent of what anyone thinks of as "best" and "good" then it can't be "simply human behaviors which better serve the interests of human society as a whole and so individuals in general" - because that requires someone to decide what it better for society, and you said it doesn't matter what anyone thinks.
Therefore the objective standard of "good" exists independent of people or of society itself. You just argued for God.
Thanks for playing.
When is your baptism?
Thanks for playing.
When do you discard your fairy tales.
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Originally posted by seer View PostJim, you are not making sense.
And yes, I do believe there is a better system - that which follows New Testament moral principles. I'm glad we agree!
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