Originally posted by seer
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It's like saying I might disagree with communists over what a "suit" is because I think it's a lawsuit and they think it's something you wear. Same word, different meanings. Until we have identified what kind of "moral progress" we are thinking of, we'd just be talking past one another.
And even once you've established what you mean by the phrase, there are so many different possible ways to make progress even if you agree on the goal. e.g. say you're all totally agreed the objective goal is to get from NY to Houston. One way to make progress is to start walking. Another person makes progress by calling a taxi. Another person makes progress by going to work to earn the money they'd need for a plane flight. Even with complete agreement on the goal, there are still lots of types of ways that progress can be made toward it. Another person makes progress by going down to the dock to board a cruise ship. Which of those is the "objectively right" way of making progress? All of them, none of them, that's a meaningless question, and for those reasons I think your entire line of argument in this thread is meaningless nonsense.
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