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Here in the Philosophy forum we will talk about all the "why" questions. We'll have conversations about the way in which philosophy and theology and religion interact with each other. Metaphysics, ontology, origins, truth? They're all fair game so jump right in and have some fun! But remember...play nice!
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Last edited by Roy; 06-21-2018, 06:41 AM.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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That is the point Tass, I don't define personhood, personhood it too arbitrary! As you have seen with those who support infanticide. A live, living, growing human is worthy of human rights. After all human rights are for humans, and that unborn child is a human.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostJust what is this "it" that needs to be followed correctly? What are the societies that have been based upon this immutable objective morality, have there been any? Or is it just a nice idea?
And I said, it doesn't mean everyone follows it. It is the standard we all strive for. We know when something is good and when something is not. We don't always get it right, but overall, it is what you mean when you say things like society's morals are better today than 100 years ago. It is the standard we measure against to decide something is "better"
God put this sense into everyone, but not everyone listens to it. You might think evolution did it. But even you believe it is there.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostNor can you, unless you can identify what your objective morality actually says.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostAt the risk of being accused of arguing by weblink, most of it can be found here:
https://www.biblegateway.com/
What does this have to do with objective morality? Can you can identify what your objective morality actually is or not. Waiting!
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Originally posted by seer View PostThat is the point Tass, I don't define personhood, personhood it too arbitrary! As you have seen with those who support infanticide. A live, living, growing human is worthy of human rights. After all human rights are for humans, and that unborn child is a human.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostAt the risk of being accused of arguing by weblink, most of it can be found here:
https://www.biblegateway.com/
It's also not objective.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostGranting full human rights from conception onward, is NOT arbitrary you think? It is in fact. And what about the mother's human rights?Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI have no idea what you are talking about.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Roy View PostSo not only is your objective morality internally inconsistent, vague and interpretable, it allows slavery, genocide, lapidation, rape, polygamy, concubinage and racism; is silent on unsafe construction, stem cell use, road safety, elections, intellectual property rights and gun possession; disallows eating scampi, divorce, religious freedom, working weekends and going bare-headed in church; and demands that post-menstruation women sacrifice pigeons.
It's also not objective.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThe bible reports historical events and actions. It doesn't always approve of them. It also contains commands and information on moral behavior and sinful behavior. It is not an instruction manual. God created the universe and it's rules. So what he says is moral is objective and affects everyone.
You can doubt it all you want, but one day you will face him and answer for all of your actions. Good luck with mocking him.Last edited by Tassman; 06-22-2018, 11:59 PM.
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Originally posted by kiwimac View PostNo."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
"Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman
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