Abortion Is Equal To Murder?

[KingsGambit]

On the other hand, people sometimes reveal their true thoughts in an unguarded moment.

Or when they're drunk

[carpedm9587]

On the other hand, people sometimes reveal their true thoughts in an unguarded moment.

As I have said several times...when someone I have no reason to doubt tells me what they meant when they said X, I accept it as such. To do otherwise is to try to read minds and makes it likely I'm going to impose my own beliefs on them.

If I have not been consistent on that here - then I invite people to call me on it. It's something I feel fairly passionately about (unlike slogans on money... ).

[Cow Poke]

Or when they're drunk

That's an unguarded moment generator.

[Cow Poke]

As I have said several times...when someone I have no reason to doubt tells me what they meant when they said X, I accept it as such. To do otherwise is to try to read minds and makes it likely I'm going to impose my own beliefs on them.

If I have not been consistent on that here - then I invite people to call me on it. It's something I feel fairly passionately about (unlike slogans on money... ).

I was just messin with you, cause you said you'd leave it at that. I knew you couldn't.

I don't use what "people" generally do to make a judgement about what a specific person is likely to do (or at least I try not to). RBG does not have a reputation for lying, and has never said anything even remotely similar. I'm inclined to believe her. We'll have to leave it at that.

[carpedm9587]

I was just messin with you, cause you said you'd leave it at that. I knew you couldn't.

[Tassman]

I think I said that - it does not align with my experience. I read your article, and noted it is from Salon - which leans pretty hard to the left. That raises my "dubiousness" quotient a bit. It doesn't mean it's wrong (genetic fallacy), it just means I need to do a little digging to validate (or refute) the claims it makes. I don't have time for that right now, but perhaps later today.

Perhaps you should have done that before you inserted your two-penneth worth on a topic that is so emotionally fraught.

[Tassman]

Most of which you pervert or very selectively site, or are just absolutely flat out wrong.

https://www.dmagazine.com/frontburne...as-pro-choice/

http://religiondispatches.org/the-no...life-movement/

https://www.salon.com/2013/02/09/the...retty_partner/

You have a hateful anti-Christian bias, and you will descend to any depth to try to support that.

Thank you for so clearly demonstrating your anti-atheist bias. Yet again!

[carpedm9587]

Perhaps you should have done that before you inserted your two-penneth worth on a topic that is so emotionally fraught.

No...I don't think so. We can all offer our insights based on our experiences, Tass. When someone offers evidence against those insights, it's worth examining. However, there is no way to examine it until someone offers the insights. In response to your post, I offered my experience. In response to that you offered a Salon post. As soon as I have some time, I'll dig into the salon post.

If that is not adequate for you...well...

[carpedm9587]

https://www.dmagazine.com/frontburne...as-pro-choice/

http://religiondispatches.org/the-no...life-movement/

https://www.salon.com/2013/02/09/the...retty_partner/

Thank you for so clearly demonstrating your anti-atheist bias. Yet again!

You're on a theology forum. Are you really surprised there is an anti-atheist bias?

[Tassman]

No...I don't think so. We can all offer our insights based on our experiences, Tass. When someone offers evidence against those insights, it's worth examining. However, there is no way to examine it until someone offers the insights. In response to your post, I offered my experience. In response to that you offered a Salon post. As soon as I have some time, I'll dig into the salon post.

If that is not adequate for you...well...

I've posted numerous links on the topic. If you're concerned about the bias of Salon you might prefer Politico:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...3#.U4d_e_ldW2E

I look forward to your response.

You're on a theology forum. Are you really surprised there is an anti-atheist bias?

"You have a hateful anti-Christian bias, and you will descend to any depth to try to support that".

[seer]

[carpedm9587]

I've posted numerous links on the topic. If you're concerned about the bias of Salon you might prefer Politico:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...3#.U4d_e_ldW2E

I look forward to your response.

Heading for a day of class right now. This week is pretty dedicated to the program I'm teaching, but I may find some time. BTW, I didn't go back and read the entire thread. I just responded to the one post (and our exchange since then, of course).

"You have a hateful anti-Christian bias, and you will descend to any depth to try to support that".

Hyperbole is not exactly rare around here, I've noticed. I have come to wonder if it is not endemic to the atheist/theist encounter. After all, the idea of god is not an abstraction to them - it is a personal relationship they experience as very real. Then along comes the atheist. The very name "atheist" essentially suggests that they are in a relationship with a fantasy. If someone told me my relationship with my wife was an illusion, I would wonder about their sanity. I might even get a bit hyperbolic.

And hyperbole is not exactly unique to theists...

[Cow Poke]

That's a flat out lie. I proved you wrong by showing the parts of your cites that you omitted. You included PARTS of resolutions from the SBC that argued for exceptions for abortion - the part you omitted was about the sanctity of human life. That was a even a couple years BEFORE RvW.

The resolutions cited the sanctity of human life - INCLUDING THE FETUS - then allowed for some very limited exceptions.

Your citation of "The bureau chief of the Baptist Press" turned out to be the very liberal OPINION of ONE bureau chief of SBC's most liberal and troublesome office.

You are just as wrong about this as when you falsely accused the homosexual man of supporting NAMBLA, when he was, indeed, speaking AGAINST NAMBLA.

How do you get so much wrong so often?

[Cow Poke]

"You have a hateful anti-Christian bias, and you will descend to any depth to try to support that".

That's not spiteful at all, Tassman. Merely accurate observation based on solid evidence.

[Roy]

MRI scans help diagnose disease or damage, but I doubt that it would have told us anything about a normal fetus in the womb that wasn't already known.

So you think we knew what a normally developing foetus's MRI scan looked like before MRI scanners were invented???