Objective Morality (Once More Into The Breach)

[shunyadragon]

Altruism: unselfish regard for or devotion to the welfare of others.

That is what I mean by altruism, which is therefore incompatible with selfishness, however enlightened it may be.

Best wishes,
Lee

Your view of altruism is too idealistic and incomplete. It reality altruism does fulfill self-interest to a degree in that it encourages bonding in communities of human and animals reinforcing a sense of belonging and relationships in a community. A more complete definition, and realistic world of altruism.

[Charles]

So what is you point? He often uses the wicked for His purposes - like you...

Anything to prove such an unsympathetic claim, seer?

[seer]

Anything to prove such an unsympathetic claim, seer?

Charles, I'm still waiting for you to offer a non-circular definition of "good."

[Charles]

Charles, I'm still waiting for you to offer a non-circular definition of "good."

No need to wait. I have described my view. Read again. And why did you not answer the question? The typical seer trick?

[seer]

No need to wait. I have described my view. Read again. And why did you not answer the question? The typical seer trick?

Stop being dishonest Charles, link me to your post (not a whole thread) where you offered a non-circular definition of "good?"

[Charles]

I am not dishonest. You can examine my view as I presented it. And you still did not answer. Trying to change focus? The seer trick...

[seer]

I am not dishonest. You can examine my view as I presented it. And you still did not answer. Trying to change focus? The seer trick...

And you are deceptive, show me first where you made a non-circular argument - you never did, you are just hand waving now. And then show me where I did not answer you. If you don't link to both questions stay out of this thread.

[Charles]

Seer, the question is a few posts away. Please answer. I have asked about a specific statement you made.

I provided a detailed description of my view in the shared challenge thread. You are yet to prove it circular.

[seer]

Seer, the question is a few posts away. Please answer. I have asked about a specific statement you made.

I provided a detailed description of my view in the shared challenge thread. You are yet to prove it circular.

Charles please leave my thread.

[Charles]

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[shunyadragon]

Charles, I'm still waiting for you to offer a non-circular definition of "good."

Source: https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS740US740&q=good+definition&oq=good+definition&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0i131k1j0i7i30k1l6j0i7i10i30k1j0i7i30k1l2.4264.9350.0.11926.12.12.0.0.0.0.202.1809.0j11j1.12.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.12.1783...0i13k1j0i67k1.0.3m3UTHg5lCI

2. benefit or advantage to someone or something.
"he convinces his father to use his genius for the good of mankind"
synonyms: benefit, advantage, profit, gain, interest, welfare, well-being; enjoyment, comfort, ease, convenience; help, aid, assistance, service; behalf
"it's all for your good"

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Morals and ethics and cooperation have 'benefits and advantages' to human society and cultures for their stability and survival by definition.

[seer]

Morals and ethics and cooperation have 'benefits and advantages' to human society and cultures for their stability and survival by definition.

But why is our survival an objective moral good?

[shunyadragon]

But why is our survival an objective moral good?

By the nature and definition of 'good' the survival of life and species evolution is good.

2. benefit or advantage to someone or something.

[Bill the Cat]

Charles please leave my thread.

Seer,

Please follow the instructions here:
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[seer]

Seer,

Please follow the instructions here:
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I think I did.