Originally posted by seer
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These are assumptions, and not logically provable. And two assumptions I might add that I agree with as I have made clear. Yet these assumptions are not certainty, nor can they be - logically, and you have not demonstrated otherwise. It is still logically possible that we can be deceived, I'm not claiming that we are as I also made clear.
And if we were both living in a Matrix, connected to each other, in a virtual world, why couldn't we speak of these things consistently?
- We are not actually talking, since our bodies are not in a room. We are given the impression of talking.
- We are not thinking. Somehow a something (what is it?) is given the impression of thinking but the thoughts are induced (can you even call that thinking?).
- Our talking is not based on reflection and are not comming from us, so it could not be the case that we were speakning. It could at most be the case that we were given the impression of doing so.
- All our ideas about reality could or would be fake and there was no way we could ever know
- You seem to hold that this is possible and could be the case right now. In that case your assumption would be part of the fake ideas and thoughts, so by pointing to that you are not even starting to get out of it. Neither are your arguments for the possibility nor your arguments against me real. Then you would say: "But you have got nothing but assumption, Charles". But that would be a fake impression induced into your brain too.
As I said I would be interested in hearing further justification for the claim that the trilemma is self evident.
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