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Here in the Philosophy forum we will talk about all the "why" questions. We'll have conversations about the way in which philosophy and theology and religion interact with each other. Metaphysics, ontology, origins, truth? They're all fair game so jump right in and have some fun! But remember...play nice!
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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostI thought from the traditional Christian perspective it was derived from Original Sin and the Fall.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostNo, I'm working with Tass' presupposition of atheism.
The presupposition of Methodological Naturalism and objective verifiable evidence trumps the religious view of Original Sin and the Fall.
It actually supports Tass' worldview to the degree that his philosophical assumption on Philosophical Naturalism must be made without evidence.Last edited by shunyadragon; 09-01-2017, 09:47 PM.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostI believe the precursors of human and primate morality and ethics in the evolution of instinctive behavior, but 'being purely instinctive' is an over simplification. There is sufficient evidence that though simpler morality and ethics in primates, they are sufficiently similar to human morality and ethics that such clear distinction cannot be made.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostIt does not work if your beliefs are not upfront and clear.
The presupposition of Methodological Naturalism and objective verifiable evidence trumps the religious view of Original Sin and the Fall.
It actually supports Tass' worldview to the degree that his philosophical assumption on Philosophical Naturalism must be made without evidence.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostWhat is that is not wrong in and with say, the average chimpanzee?Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostOK, so you don't believe things like rape, murder, stealing, greed, selfishness, etc... are wrong. Got it...
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThey are in modern human society, generally speaking, they weren't necessarily so in Moses' time. So what's your basis for claiming: "That there is something wrong in and with man"?Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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But if we do not acculturate or socialize correctly then there is something inherently wrong in man. And how have we moved from the tribal era when we still murder, rape and steal? You are not making sense. And things like rape, murder, stealing were wrong in the Mosaic code, as well as other ancient law codes. So what the heck are you talking about?
Now, once again: Why do you say that there is something wrong in and with man"? Direct answer please.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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t ) or false (f ).
4. Form exists in only one unalterable grade of value, True (T), capitalized to identify its precedence and preeminence over I.
5. Inorganic information possesses an immutable t under the supervision of T . It follows that all inorganic matter is Vt.
6. Organic information can exist in either a t or f state. It follows that organic matter is either Vt or Vftt and f values via motion of their respective point-locales from one informational state to another.
The vigor or force of the Vt in opposition to Vf
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Originally posted by seer View PostBut if we do not acculturate or socialize correctly then there is something inherently wrong in man.
And how have we moved from the tribal era when we still murder, rape and steal? You are not making sense. And things like rape, murder, stealing were wrong in the Mosaic code, as well as other ancient law codes.
Of course I am - I'm a Christian, you know that.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThe mere fact that we proscribe murder, rape and stealing and maintain Law and Order, indicates that we view it as wrong.
Rape, murder, stealing were not wrong in the Mosaic code when it came to annihilating rival tribes.
Yes I have more - history. Unless, again, you don't believe that things like murder, rape, greed, fraud, stealing, etc... are wrong.Last edited by seer; 09-08-2017, 06:40 AM.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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