The original thread deteriorated into debating individual specific arguments, and not the logical basis and reasons for 'Why should arguments be not used' and 'what arguments should we use' based on the logical basis, soundness and relevance of the arguments.
I have specific problems concerning the arguments of 'free will, mind and consciousness and objective morality be used for arguments for the existence of God.
The reasons that these arguments should not be used is:
(1) There is no objective evidence that humans could naturally be a deterministic machine or as claimed a robot without free will. Human nature is what it is naturally with consciousness, a mind, and a (free?) will regardless.
(2) There is no way to compare the possible options for the nature of our existence with or without God. This is the same for the weak argument for an objective morality, because human nature and morality is as it is whether God exists or not, and there is no way to compare a hypothetical world with a God and one without God.
(3) There is a problem with how 'objective' is used in arguments such as the issue of the origin of human morality. This will be addressed with references concerning how 'objective' is used, and how it is defined and should be used.
I have specific problems concerning the arguments of 'free will, mind and consciousness and objective morality be used for arguments for the existence of God.
The reasons that these arguments should not be used is:
(1) There is no objective evidence that humans could naturally be a deterministic machine or as claimed a robot without free will. Human nature is what it is naturally with consciousness, a mind, and a (free?) will regardless.
(2) There is no way to compare the possible options for the nature of our existence with or without God. This is the same for the weak argument for an objective morality, because human nature and morality is as it is whether God exists or not, and there is no way to compare a hypothetical world with a God and one without God.
(3) There is a problem with how 'objective' is used in arguments such as the issue of the origin of human morality. This will be addressed with references concerning how 'objective' is used, and how it is defined and should be used.
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