Wasn't sure where to put this. I'm interested in the secular take on it. Where do you find meaning and fulfillment in your life? Let's try to keep things civil; I'm not really looking for debate here.
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Leftism as Secular Religion
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Leftism as Secular Religion
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So basically they are equating leftism with humanism?
There are right-wingers who seem to make a religion out of conservatism too.
I am also reminded of the Atheist Churches.
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The parable of the talents (Matthew 25:14-30) has the main character giving according to their ability not according to their need. And note how he took back what he gave the servant who buried the money and did nothing with it rather than used it to increase the owners wealth and gave it to the servant who had increased his wealth ten-fold.
Doesn't sound very socialistic to me.
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Lemme know where you find something similar actually said by him.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostLemme know where you find something similar actually said by him.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostYou can be sure that Jesus said a lot more than is actually quoted in the Bible. The question then is how is he portrayed and what is his legacy. He is definitely portrayed as a left wing socialist who puts people before wealth. Mind you, he shows no interest in posessions because he thinks the world is about to end.
I always find it ironic how those who refuse to listen to Him and scream about separation of Church and State whenever someone quotes Scripture when talking about social policy suddenly turn around and seek to try to use Him to support something they want.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Does anyone have an opinion on the actual article? The theory of Jesus espousing socialism is sorta tangential to that at best.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Last edited by Littlejoe; 08-29-2018, 04:17 PM."What has the Church gained if it is popular, but there is no conviction, no repentance, no power?" - A.W. Tozer
"... there are two parties in Washington, the stupid party and the evil party, who occasionally get together and do something both stupid and evil, and this is called bipartisanship." - Everett Dirksen
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People as a general rule feel a need to belong to something greater than themselves so it does not surprise me that people look for something to fill the void. We have seen this with a few atheist churches, and more commonly, with Unitarian Universalism, which I view as functionally little different from an atheist church.
I have to question Prager's statement that leftists believe that people are basically good. Consider the rise of the social justice warrior cult that is rapidly taking over liberalism. This actually seems to have more in common with Calvinism than atheism in that it maintains that people are fated to be racist oppressors or helpless victims based on the color of the skin they are born with. They certainly do not believe that people are basically good. Even though Prager is off on that one, I think that this philosophy (intersectionalism) is very much like a religion, which still plays into his broader point.
Another thing I've noticed about politics is the fanaticism of libertarians, which is often of a borderline religious fervor. Extreme libertarians and anarcho-capitalists seem disproportionately atheist compared to the rest of the population at large, which I think would support Prager's point."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostJesus instructed His followers to take care of the poor. He never said anything about getting government to force others to do so.
I always find it ironic how those who refuse to listen to Him and scream about separation of Church and State whenever someone quotes Scripture when talking about social policy suddenly turn around and seek to try to use Him to support something they want.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThe parable of the talents (Matthew 25:14-30) has the main character giving according to their ability not according to their need. And note how he took back what he gave the servant who buried the money and did nothing with it rather than used it to increase the owners wealth and gave it to the servant who had increased his wealth ten-fold.
Doesn't sound very socialistic to me.I am become death...
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Ummm...That's not John 3:9-11 you quoted. I believe you meant Luke 3?
IMO, that verse is talking about being prepared for the coming destruction of Jerusalem/end of the world (as they knew it)."What has the Church gained if it is popular, but there is no conviction, no repentance, no power?" - A.W. Tozer
"... there are two parties in Washington, the stupid party and the evil party, who occasionally get together and do something both stupid and evil, and this is called bipartisanship." - Everett Dirksen
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The search for meaning is certainly not found in one's political view, and the secular view has no meaning, as Dawkins said:
Though he still does try to find meaning!
Which is a rather astonishing contrast, in a universe such as he describes above, how can we find meaning in life?
There you have it, a book of facts would be meaningful, though I think most would find this unsatisfactory.
Blessings,
Lee"What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)
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