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Originally posted by JimL View PostYes, I know, and Craig does the same thing, he makes crap up that either isn't biblical at all, or contradicts what the bible says. I mean, what else are you going to do, you either have to make stuff up, even if it makes no sense at all, else come to the realization that you've been living a lie, and we both know that would be too traumatic and ain't ever going to happen.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostJimL, please tell me which question I didn't answer for you and in which post you asked it.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYes, I know, and Craig does the same thing, he makes crap up that either isn't biblical at all, or contradicts what the bible says. I mean, what else are you going to do, you either have to make stuff up, even if it makes no sense at all, else come to the realization that you've been living a lie, and we both know that would be too traumatic and ain't ever going to happen.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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JimL has not earned the right to be the arbiter of what is and isn't biblical. (Though I tend to agree that Molinism is way too speculative to consider as a serious contender for a sotierological paradigm.)"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostHow would you know? There's no evidence you've read the bible (at all, let alone recently) to know what's in it, and it's not as if you've actually bothered to read Craig based on your lazy misreading of even Adrift's synopsis. Easier to just repeat your own uninformed opinion and try to make us disprove it, eh?
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostJust curious, but which way do you lean on the subject? More of a Calvinist perspective maybe?"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYou tried to make it about me Sparko, rather than answering the question directly. But here, I'll ask again. How do the billions of people, particularly those that lived prior to the existence of Jesus, who have never known anything about chrisianity or Jesus, and so do not believe in Jesus get saved?
As I said, God doesn't OWE salvation to everyone. He doesn't owe salvation to anyone. So anyone not saved will have nothing to complain about. They will be going to hell for their own sins, which they committed themselves. I explained all this several times to you.
If God decided not to save anyone, then that would still be fair and just. We have all sinned. We all deserve hell. But God is merciful and will save some of us. You are lucky and have a choice. You are squandering it.Last edited by Sparko; 10-19-2017, 01:25 PM.
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostI don't like the terms Calvinist and Arminian as the systems themselves come with baggage on other issues. I prefer monergist/syngergist, and I'm definitely a synergist. The first Christians were synergists and didn't see compelling scriptural evidence to the contrary; Augustine was the one who really popularized monergism.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostOk, so how would you answer the question, "Can those who have never heard the Gospel be saved?"
I'm always still in trouble again
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThe Bible tells us that we're saved through Christ. It doesn't mention a "Plan B" yet that does not mean that God, through His infinite mercy, has not provided for one. Just that we haven't been told about it if it exists.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostHA Ha Ha! Theres no evidence you've read the bible either. But I have, and yes I know whats in it, and what is in it is a lot of nonsense that only the mind of a naive child, could be made to believe. Some of us grow up, and begin to realize that what we've been taught to believe is just so much fairy tale nonsense, but no doubt the meme is strong, and some, the meek, they just don't want to grow up and look life in the face, they want to stay and feel safe in their fantasy world forever and ever.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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