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Is God Immoral?
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Originally posted by Enjolras View Post1 Samuel 15:3 'Now go and strike Amalek and utterly destroy all that he has, and do not spare him; but put to death both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.'"
I'm sure the children and infants deserved to die, but what do suppose the donkeys did?To say that crony capitalism is not true/free market capitalism, is like saying a grand slam is not true baseball, or like saying scoring a touchdown is not true American football ...Stefan Mykhaylo D
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Originally posted by jordanriver View PostInnocent children die and go straight to heaven.
Originally posted by jordanriver View Posthow is that worse than being an ANE child allowed to grow up and lose innocence sacrificing innocent children
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Originally posted by whag View PostAnd if you look at the bloodshed, it's mostly generated by people who hold to dopey tribal views or religion of some kind. Even North Korea is steeped in a quasi-religious belief that''s strongly enforced. Spinoza and Paine would have none of that. Name a culture based on the principles of Spinoza and Paine that sheds blood like the tribalists/religionists/occultists do.
And yet that same God mandated babies stabbed with spears, hence your cognitive dissonance.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by whag View PostAll the more reason why the Midian campaign generates friction in your brain. You use the same justifications as pro-aborts and expect me not to laugh?Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostNonsense, Communists are not quasi-religious - they are atheists, and totalitarian. But what you are describing above is simply the nature of man. And again, for there to be progression we must be moving from something to something. But there is no objective moral standard to move towards.
Originally posted by seer View PostYes...
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Originally posted by whag View PostBalaam conversed with one without hesitation. Does that ever give you pause?Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostNo Whag you said: Not even the most rabid atheists side with sacrificing babies: That is just false, there some very smart, university educated atheist who justify the killing of newborns. And they certainly justify the killing of unborn babies. And I suspect you would support both.
That being said, your justifications of biblical genocide precisely mirror that of the most rabid pro-abort.
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Originally posted by whag View PostStalin and Un use the same methods of their theocratic forbears to obtain obedience. In fact Un believes he is supernaturally descended and enforces a strict "worship me" rule. You bet your tuchus that's quasi religious. What's funny is you think the science of evolution is a "religion" but those despots irreligious.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by whag View PostI think now you're beginning to see why defending OT atrocities is a waste of time. If you're not even convinced, how do you expect others to be convinced?
Let me tell you a story. My dad took me to the doctor once when I was small. We went to get a smallpox vaccination (yeah, a long time ago). When I realized what was happening I was horrified. This doctor I had trusted was hurting me, as my dad was letting him do it. It was horrible until later when he, my dad, explained what and why. Eventually we may understand the things that seem so horrible. Or maybe not. I trust my Dad however.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by whag View PostYou're conflating the issue of reproductive control--which your side has completely bungled--with sacrifice. A zygote is not a baby. Partial birth abortions aren't propitiations by any stretch of the imagination.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostYou mean like babies in the womb sacrificed to personal convenience. And there are prominent atheists suggesting that we should be able to kill just born babies for any reason whatsoever.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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