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Nero Became Demon Possessed After Paul's Testimony?
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostBeen checking into that, and found this...
It triggered a memory from Seminary WAY back in the day.... one of the points being that Paul's imprisonment in Rome was 'house arrest' where he was allowed to rent his own quarters, but the second imprisonment was not so cushy.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostIs it a common orthodox belief that Paul in fact faced Nero two times? Personally, I believe it to be true, but from what I remember in my apologetic days it's a pretty controversial idea and I didn't think it was that common in Christian circles.
It triggered a memory from Seminary WAY back in the day.... one of the points being that Paul's imprisonment in Rome was 'house arrest' where he was allowed to rent his own quarters, but the second imprisonment was not so cushy.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostIs it a common orthodox belief that Paul in fact faced Nero two times? Personally, I believe it to be true, but it's pretty controversial idea and I didn't think it was that common in Christian circles.
But that's why I like to ask.
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Is it a common orthodox belief that Paul in fact faced Nero two times? Personally, I believe it to be true, but from what I remember in my apologetic days it's a pretty controversial idea and I didn't think it was that common in Christian circles.
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostIs part of his argument based on the strong impact that Paul's gospel presentation had on Felix?
Sure, supposition on Smith's part, but not unreasonable.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostChuck is suggesting that Nero had the Gospel presented to him in such a powerful way, but because he was all about "Nero is Emperor supreme", it only enraged him as he thought about it, and literally drove him mad. Possibly even demon possessed.
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By the way, thanks for the serious responses -- let's PLEASE not let this go to spam or goofy nonsense, OK?
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostSupernatural intervention would explain why Nero took such an interest in a small religious group that should not have seemed to be that much of a threat to the order of the empire.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostI've read somewhere that he seemed to go off the rails around the time of the death of Seneca, who was one of his chief advisors.
ETA: Not his FIRST trial - his first appearance before Nero at Rome.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI'm listening to a commentary by Chuck Smith on Philippians 1.
Chuck makes a comment about Paul's first appearance before Nero, in which Paul was set free, then a subsequent appearance 2 years later, where Paul was martyred.
He didn't say it exactly like that, but that's not the point....
He suggests that, following Paul's presentation of the Gospel in his defense before Nero, Nero became a "mad man". That PRIOR to this, Nero was a fairly decent ruler.
I've just googled some sources that tend to agree that there was a drastic change in Nero, but they attribute it more to the death of his mother, or the death of Agrippa, or some other event.
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Supernatural intervention would explain why Nero took such an interest in a small religious group that should not have seemed to be that much of a threat to the order of the empire.
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Nero Became Demon Possessed After Paul's Testimony?
I'm listening to a commentary by Chuck Smith on Philippians 1.
Chuck makes a comment about Paul's first appearance before Nero, in which Paul was set free, then a subsequent appearance 2 years later, where Paul was martyred.
He didn't say it exactly like that, but that's not the point....
He suggests that, following Paul's presentation of the Gospel in his defense before Nero, Nero became a "mad man". That PRIOR to this, Nero was a fairly decent ruler.
I've just googled some sources that tend to agree that there was a drastic change in Nero, but they attribute it more to the death of his mother, or the death of Agrippa, or some other event.
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