Nobody Dies for a Lie

[Roy]

It tells of the gods, creators of the earth and the people and animals of the earth, ...

And where is the ex nihilo creation in that? And by gods?

Right there.

[37818]

Right there.

Please give me the quote from the specified myth. Claiming that it teaches something it does not, does not work.

[37818]

Nevertheless, the Mesopotamian creation myths and the later Genesis ones, which borrowed from the former, cannot be deemed literally true in any sense. They are theological arguments not explanations of how the universe began in a scientific sense.

Genesis 1;1 stands against the myths.

[Tassman]

Genesis 1;1 stands against the myths.

The whole thing is mythical (and contradictory) in tone. In no way do the two creation variants in Genesis equate with reality.

[Roy]

Please give me the quote from the specified myth.

You want a quote from a myth?

[37818]

You want a quote from a myth?

The Hebrew ex nihilo account in Genesis 1:1 stands against the myths.

[37818]

The whole thing is mythical (and contradictory) in tone. In no way do the two creation variants in Genesis equate with reality.

You are arguing interpretation. At the very least the Genesis creation account is a didactic against those myths.

[JimL]

The Hebrew ex nihilo account in Genesis 1:1 stands against the myths.

First of all there are many ex nihilo creation myths where a god either dreams, thinks, or, as in genisis, speaks the world into existence. Even the Genesis account doesn't make it clear that the biblical god created matter out of nothing, only that he gave to the existing chaos its form.

Btw even the the biblical Garden of Eden, spelled Edin, was borrowed from the Sumerian myth.

[shunyadragon]

You are arguing interpretation. At the very least the Genesis creation account is a didactic against those myths.

Odd response, and does not address the issue that the objective evidence demonstrates that the Genesis myth originated from Sumerian myths shared by the Canaanites, Ugarit, and the Babylonians.

[Tassman]

You are arguing interpretation. At the very least the Genesis creation account is a didactic against those myths.

Nonsense. The Genesis creation accounts arose out of the ancient creation myths of Sumer, which was the first literate civilisation of ancient Mesopotamia...long predating the Hebrews.

[37818]

Nonsense. The Genesis creation accounts arose out of the ancient creation myths of Sumer, which was the first literate civilisation of ancient Mesopotamia...long predating the Hebrews.

If you mean in opposition to them, I would agree.

[JimL]

If you mean in opposition to them, I would agree.

He doesn't, and you're wrong.

[Doug Shaver]

If you mean in opposition to them, I would agree.

Why should I believe that the authors of the Hebrew myths intended to oppose the earlier myths?

[Tassman]

If you mean in opposition to them, I would agree.

That's not what I meant, nor did I imply it. The Genesis creation narratives were simply a retelling of the far more ancient Mesopotamian creation myths by the Hebrews, who then adopted them as their own.

[37818]

That's not what I meant, nor did I imply it. The Genesis creation narratives were simply a retelling of the far more ancient Mesopotamian creation myths by the Hebrews, who then adopted them as their own.

Refuted them.