Class conflict, bandits, and prophets in first century Palestine

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

The "known historical situation" you say?

Go forth and inform yourself.

[tabibito]

Go forth and inform yourself.

You are the wrong person to be saying that. Your assessment of the times is all too often short of any attested contemporary documentation.

[rogue06]

[sarcasm] I would have thought such a polymath as yourself would be fully conversant with his works.

Are you saying that you have them memorized? That you know where to instantly find every passage he wrote?

Or is this just your ham-fisted way to avoid citing the source when asked. Perhaps you just threw Josephus' name out there hoping you wouldn't be called on it.

You are welcome present factual evidence to counter what you consider to be "minor facts and insignificant detail".

You already did. When you provided your little list. Or were you too zoned out on your meds again to realize that was what I was referring to? I mean, you somehow missed that I was directly responding to and describing that list.

It appears that historical events are no longer my "opinion" but have now transmogrified into my "assertions".

Assertions because for some reason you have continued to cravenly refused to offer a single piece of corroboration. You simply make statements that you cannot be bothered to support.

Kind of like how you constantly make pronouncements and offer opinions on a book that you've spent decades criticizing but somehow never bothered to find the time to read.

It really is quite simple rogue06. You are more than welcome to address the posts I have made and present factual evidence to refute my comments, or provide valid grounds for any disagreement.

I AM addressing them when I ask you for supporting evidence for your statements.

You continue to respond to those requests by again squawking that I'm free to address them. IOW, you cannot verify your claims because you have steadfastly refused to do so at every opportunity.

[rogue06]

You are more than welcome to actually address what I have written and provide factual evidence to rebut my comments or provide valid grounds for any disagreements you may have.

This is probably a novel approach for you, but maybe you should first provide corroboration for all of your unsupported statements before demanding comments based upon "valid grounds for disagreements." I mean, you're demanding what you yourself utterly refuse to provide in spite of being asked several times.

Until you can support your numerous claims, everyone is justified in replying in kind. Simply make a claim.

[rogue06]

Go forth and inform yourself.

TRANSLATION: Rats! They're seeing through my smoke and mirrors and realize I'm just spouting off. Presenting numerous opinions offered up as facts. Guess I'll tell them to do what I need to be doing.

[tabibito]

TRANSLATION: Rats! They're seeing through my smoke and mirrors and realize I'm just spouting off. Presenting numerous opinions offered up as facts. Guess I'll tell them to do what I need to be doing.

That.

or

"Rats! I am being held to the same standards that I have attempted to impose on others."

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Are you saying that you have them memorized? That you know where to instantly find every passage he wrote?

Or is this just your ham-fisted way to avoid citing the source when asked. Perhaps you just threw Josephus' name out there hoping you wouldn't be called on it.


You already did. When you provided your little list. Or were you too zoned out on your meds again to realize that was what I was referring to? I mean, you somehow missed that I was directly responding to and describing that list.


Assertions because for some reason you have continued to cravenly refused to offer a single piece of corroboration. You simply make statements that you cannot be bothered to support.

Kind of like how you constantly make pronouncements and offer opinions on a book that you've spent decades criticizing but somehow never bothered to find the time to read.


I AM addressing them when I ask you for supporting evidence for your statements.

You continue to respond to those requests by again squawking that I'm free to address them. IOW, you cannot verify your claims because you have steadfastly refused to do so at every opportunity.

This is probably a novel approach for you, but maybe you should first provide corroboration for all of your unsupported statements before demanding comments based upon "valid grounds for disagreements." I mean, you're demanding what you yourself utterly refuse to provide in spite of being asked several times.

Until you can support your numerous claims, everyone is justified in replying in kind. Simply make a claim.

TRANSLATION: Rats! They're seeing through my smoke and mirrors and realize I'm just spouting off. Presenting numerous opinions offered up as facts. Guess I'll tell them to do what I need to be doing.

This is really too delicious!

You have quite evidently illustrated that you know next to nothing about Rome's involvement with this region, nor it would appear its ongoing conflict with Parthia, nor indeed the socio-economic conditions prevailing among the lower orders in Galilee from the mid late first century BCE through to the early decades of the first century CE.

I have to ask, do you also demand corroboration when someone refers to the battle of Gettysburg, or the attack on Pearl Harbour, or the defeat of Napoleon at Waterloo? These likewise are attested historical events.

However, your ignorance caused me much mirth this Wednesday evening.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

You are the wrong person to be saying that. Your assessment of the times is all too often short of any attested contemporary documentation.

Then you are free to provide factual evidence to demonstrate that the events I cited were nothing more than, as our dear friend rogue06 has referred to them, my "opinions" or my "assertions".

[rogue06]

This is really too delicious!

You have quite evidently illustrated that you know next to nothing about Rome's involvement with this region, nor it would appear its ongoing conflict with Parthia, nor indeed the socio-economic conditions prevailing among the lower orders in Galilee from the mid late first century BCE through to the early decades of the first century CE.

I have to ask, do you also demand corroboration when someone refers to the battle of Gettysburg, or the attack on Pearl Harbour, or the defeat of Napoleon at Waterloo? These likewise are attested historical events.

However, your ignorance caused me much mirth this Wednesday evening.

Whatever excuse will work for you in order to continue ignoring any and all requests for corroboration for all of your unsupported, unsourced declarations.

It isn't the scraps of history that you insert into your posts that is the problem. It is all of the assertions that you make, so let's not pretend otherwise.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

It isn't the scraps of history that you insert into your posts that is the problem.

Really? So why did you write this after I cited a list to you of attested historical events?

You already did. When you provided your little list

It is all of the assertions that you make, so let's not pretend otherwise.

You are free to cite my "assertions" or are they my "opinion"? You have changed your mind on that, given that you originally described my entire posts including those "scraps of history" about which you self evidently knew nothing, as :

So... nothing but your opinion, right?

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Whatever excuse will work for you in order to continue ignoring any and all requests for corroboration for all of your unsupported, unsourced declarations.

It isn't the scraps of history that you insert into your posts that is the problem. It is all of the assertions that you make, so let's not pretend otherwise.

Now do tell us all what you consider I have actually written as you have changed your mind three times.

Is it my "opinion" ? - a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter

My "assertions"? - a declaration that something is the case

My "declarations"? - something that is announced, avowed, or proclaimed.