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Originally posted by JimL View PostWell then, he wasn't, as Chrawnus claimed, fully human was he? Was Jesus omnipresent?Watch your links! http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/fa...corumetiquette
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Originally posted by DesertBerean View PostNope, Jesus was both God and man. 100%. As for omnipresence...it seems in John 1:47 - 48 he saw Nathanael under a tree before he met him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostHe couldn't have been 100% both god and human, that's a logical contradiction.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostHe couldn't have been 100% both god and human, that's a logical contradiction. And John 1:47-48 simply says he saw him under the tree, it doesn't say he was beyond eyesight. And if he were omnipresent, he wouldn't be 100% human.
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Originally posted by Chrawnus View PostUntil you've actually shown that there's even a seeming logical contradiction between being fully human and fully divine we have no obligation to provide you with an answer to a non-existent problem.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostBeing 100% human means you don't have omni powers, being 100% divine means you do have omni powers, therefore it's a logical contradiction to claim you can be both fully human and fully divine.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostNo, I don't find that surprising at all, but that doesn't answer the assertion. I hope you have an answer?
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Originally posted by Chrawnus View PostThat post was the answer. You claimed being fully human means you don't have omnipowers, and my answer was simply that you don't get to decide what kind of attributes someone who is fully human is able to have. I'm not going to accept your claim that being human means not having "omnipowers" just because you say so. Merely being fully human would mean that you don't have omnipowers, but it's not clear at all whether that's simply because you're human, or because you're a created being.
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Originally posted by Same Hakeem View PostThe Bible decides what a man is and what God is. For example, "God only lives for ever" in 1 Timothy 6:16 and therefore, Jesus CANNOT be fully man being mortal and fully God immortal at the same time when Paul says Jesus died in 1 Corinthians 15:3. This is a contradiction.Watch your links! http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/fa...corumetiquette
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Originally posted by Chrawnus View PostThat post was the answer. You claimed being fully human means you don't have omnipowers, and my answer was simply that you don't get to decide what kind of attributes someone who is fully human is able to have. I'm not going to accept your claim that being human means not having "omnipowers" just because you say so. Merely being fully human would mean that you don't have omnipowers, but it's not clear at all whether that's simply because you're human, or because you're a created being.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostWas Jesus a created being? No? Then by your own logic he wasn't fully human. But do continue to try an rationalize the contradiction.
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