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  • #106
    Hey! It's on December 25 this year!

    (unless you're gonna be piggish about it)
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #107
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      Hey! It's on December 25 this year!

      (unless you're gonna be piggish about it)
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      • #108
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        Hey! It's on December 25 this year!

        (unless you're gonna be piggish about it)

        Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
        My work here is done!
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #109
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          Hey! It's on December 25 this year!

          (unless you're gonna be piggish about it)
          That's a nasty way to refer to the Orthodox.
          Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

          Beige Federalist.

          Nationalist Christian.

          "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

          Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

          Proud member of the this space left blank community.

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          Justice for Ashli Babbitt!

          Justice for Matthew Perna!

          Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!

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          • #110
            Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
            That's a nasty way to refer to the Orthodox.
            Assuming NR is playing along here, but considering the possibility he's not, lemme be perfectly clear....

            I was 'poking' OBP with the "piggish" comment, but I have the highest regard for his view of Christianity, and mean no ill will toward Orthodoxy of any flavor.
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #111
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              Assuming NR is playing along here, but considering the possibility he's not, lemme be perfectly clear....

              I was 'poking' OBP with the "piggish" comment, but I have the highest regard for his view of Christianity, and mean no ill will toward Orthodoxy of any flavor.
              I figgured you was just pokin' me. I'm on the New Calendar though, so I celebrate the same day you do.
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              • #112
                Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                I figgured you was just pokin' me.
                Yup, and I wouldn't do it if I didn't love you.

                I'm on the New Calendar though, so I celebrate the same day you do.
                Linky, please?

                And, a very Merry Christmas, OBP, to you and yours.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #113
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  Yup, and I wouldn't do it if I didn't love you.



                  Linky, please?
                  This work (you might have to switch to Dec)? I'd link to my diocese, but we're mixed - some parishes are on the Old Calendar, and some are on the new (the mix is slowly shifting toward the NC, since parishes can switch from OC to NC with a 2/3 vote, but can't switch the other way, and new parishes, of which mine is one, are on the NC).
                  And, a very Merry Christmas, OBP, to you and yours.
                  Right back atcha!
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                  • #114
                    Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                    This work (you might have to switch to Dec)?
                    Great! And "Holy Nativity" -- I like that!
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #115
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      Assuming NR is playing along here, but considering the possibility he's not, lemme be perfectly clear....

                      I was 'poking' OBP with the "piggish" comment, but I have the highest regard for his view of Christianity, and mean no ill will toward Orthodoxy of any flavor.
                      I wasn't sure. I didn't know about OBP's particular understanding of Christianity.
                      Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

                      Beige Federalist.

                      Nationalist Christian.

                      "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

                      Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

                      Proud member of the this space left blank community.

                      Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.

                      Justice for Ashli Babbitt!

                      Justice for Matthew Perna!

                      Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!

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                      • #116
                        Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
                        I wasn't sure. I didn't know about OBP's particular understanding of Christianity.
                        It was a 'poke' at a dear brother, but it's not always obvious, so I thought there might be a misunderstanding. OBP used to be on the calendar that had Christmas on a different day, as he is Orthodox.

                        (Perhaps he'd suggest that WE were the ones who had Christmas (Holy Nativity) on a different day )

                        Glad we cleared that up..
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #117
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                          It was a 'poke' at a dear brother, but it's not always obvious, so I thought there might be a misunderstanding. OBP used to be on the calendar that had Christmas on a different day, as he is Orthodox.

                          (Perhaps he'd suggest that WE were the ones who had Christmas (Holy Nativity) on a different day )

                          Glad we cleared that up..
                          Technically, my church used to be on a different calendar which celebrated Holy Nativity on the same day. December 25th on the Julian calendar just now happens to fall on January 7 on the Gregorian calendar (and will until 2100, when the Julian calendar adds a leap day where the Gregorian does not, at which point it will fall on January 8th on the Gregorian calendar).

                          Clear as mud?

                          Actually, if you go WAY back, it appears that Rome and its environs initially celebrated the birth of Christ on December 25, and the East celebrated the birth of Christ/baptism of the Lord on January 6. In the 4th century, the East began to follow Rome's date for celebrating the birth of Christ, but kept the celebration of the Lord's baptism on January 6, whereas Rome began to celebrate the Lord's baptism on January 6th or thereabouts (it wanders a bit these days).
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                          • #118
                            Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                            Technically, my church used to be on a different calendar which celebrated Holy Nativity on the same day. December 25th on the Julian calendar just now happens to fall on January 7 on the Gregorian calendar (and will until 2100, when the Julian calendar adds a leap day where the Gregorian does not, at which point it will fall on January 8th on the Gregorian calendar).

                            Clear as mud?

                            Actually, if you go WAY back, it appears that Rome and its environs initially celebrated the birth of Christ on December 25, and the East celebrated the birth of Christ/baptism of the Lord on January 6. In the 4th century, the East began to follow Rome's date for celebrating the birth of Christ, but kept the celebration of the Lord's baptism on January 6, whereas Rome began to celebrate the Lord's baptism on January 6th or thereabouts (it wanders a bit these days).
                            Interesting. There's probably an app for that!
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #119
                              By the way - Merry Christmas!

                              (Trump said it's OK to say that)
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • #120
                                Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                                They wouldn't have to, actually. The Spanish call it "Nativity".
                                In my tradition = Marist & Bridigine, so do we! And I am anglo-irish-saxon.

                                It is unfortunate that the prostitution of Christianity has been imposed upon us via protestantism

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