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Addressing KG's (the "women should not speak" passage)

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  • Addressing KG's (the "women should not speak" passage)

    The passage about women remaining silent (NA28 - 1 Corinthians 14:34) is silent with regard to just who or what forbids women from speaking in the congregations. With the addition of just one word, "your," the Byzantine Majority texts answer the question, incidentally resolving a second and more significant ambiguity, "women" or "wives?"
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    1 Corinthians 14:34 DRAFT TBM Version     © 2025 寂路素丹
    αι 0
    def art: nom fem pl
    ... "the": not used   η.ΑΙ (nom) την.τας (acc) της.των (gtv) τη.ταις (dtv)   η
    γυναικες
    αι, ο) noun: nom fem pl
      women.wives (sbj) female woman, wife, concubine, (female) housekeeper VOCATIVE (respect, affection) mistress, lady   γυνη
    ημων
    prsnl prnn: gtv pl
    not in NA28
      ỹour (pl) of ỹou, ỹour   συ 〆 
    εν 8
    prpstn: dtv
      in in   εν 
    ταις
    def art: dtv fem pl
      the (ind obj) the η. αι (nom); την. τας (acc); της. των (gtv); τη. ΤΑΙΣ (dtv)   η
    εκκλησιαις
    noun: ταις dtv fem pl
      congregations (indr obj) εκκλησια
    The wives in our congregations More exactly: “our wives, in the congregations,”
    σιγατωσαν
    vb: prs act imprtv 3pp
    they   must conceal ! say nothing, keep silent, stop speaking keep secret, conceal   σιγαν ^
    must remain silent
    ου 1
    negating adj
      no, not nonot οὐ, οὔ
    γαρ
    cnjnctn
      for.because for, because  γαρ ^
    επιτετραπται
    vb: pfct mid.psv indctv 3ps
    NA28: επιτρεπεται
    vb: prs mid psv indctv 3ps
    he.she.it   has gotten <?> permitted
    .
    he.she.it gets <?> permitted
    yield, give up, confer, allow, permit, commit.entrust.turn_over to, command, order, instruct   επιτρεπω
    αυταις
    pers prnn: dtv fem pl
      them (dr ob) PERS PRNN FEM PL: nom αυτη; gtv αυτης; dtv αυτη; ACC αυτην   αυτη
    λαλειν
    vb: prs act infntv
      to speak speak, talk, say, declare, express, tell, mention, chat, prattle give voice.tongue   λαλεω
    for it has not been permitted them to speak
    αλλ 1
    cnjnctn (adverse) advb
      but otherwise, on the contrary, contrariwise, and, however, indeed, nevertheless, no, notwithstanding, save, therefore   αλλα
    υποτασσεσθαι
    vb: prs mid.psv infntv
    NA28: υποτασσεσθαι
    vb: prs mid.psv indctv 3pp
      to get <?> subordinated
    .
    they must get <?> subordinated
    to bring under control to subjugate, subdue, subordinate.place_under, bring into submission, control   υποτασσειν ^
    but to get <?> subordinated
    καθως
    advb
      just as justeven asinsofar asinasmuch that καθως 
    και 2
    cnjnctn
      also, too also, too
    ο 1
    def art: nom, masc, sgl
      the (+ sbj) " ο "
    νομος
    ο. ο) noun: nom masc sgl
      law (sbj) established principle: usage, custom, norm, principle, ordinance, law, binding regulation, a rule, list of rules
    Torah (Genesis to Deuteronomy)   νομος ^
    λεγει
    vb: prs act indctv 3ps
    he.she.it   does say is saying utter, say, speak, tell, narrate, refer to address, command categorise.designate wish, mean (to say) choose, select, tally   λεγειν ^
    just as the law also says more likely: "just as custom also requires."
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    The Byzantine Majority text makes plain what can only be adduced from the NA28 text: that Paul had not issued an edict, but had addressed the practices of the Corinthian church, and gave those practices short shrift with verse 36.
    Last edited by tabibito; 04-05-2025, 10:16 PM.
    1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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    Scripture before Tradition:
    but that won't prevent others from
    taking it upon themselves to deprive you
    of the right to call yourself Christian.

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