Does the "except clause" of Matthew 19:9 allow divorce and remarriage?

[Sparko]

“And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication (= death by stoning), and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.” Matthew 19:9 (KJV 1900)
Are you divorced and remarried?

Are you off your meds? That doesn't say that the woman was innocent or that the man fornicated. It says the opposite. And if they just killed the wife who fornicated then they wouldn't need a divorce would they? He would then be a widower and be able to remarry.

And no, I am not married, nor an adulterer.

[Christianbookworm]

Alice cheats on Bob with Danny. They have a divorce. Bob can go get remarried to Carol because he didn't cheat. But if Bob was the one to break the covenant and Alice didn't, then Alice would be the one who could remarry. Don't know what happens if both cheat. Carol marries Danny?

[Dave L]

Well now I know why you are so wrong on your theology. You can't read.

The woman above is the one who committed the fornication. That's why her husband "put her away"


Learn to read.

“And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication (= death by stoning), and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.” Matthew 19:9 (KJV 1900)
Are you divorced and remarried?

[Sparko]

“And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.” Matthew 19:9 (KJV 1900) She was divorced from an adulterous husband. No except clause in this case.

Well now I know why you are so wrong on your theology. You can't read.

The woman above is the one who committed the fornication. That's why her husband "put her away"


Learn to read.

[Cow Poke]

“And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.” Matthew 19:9 (KJV 1900) She was divorced from an adulterous husband. No except clause in this case.

Dave, honey, you keep skipping over a very important parenthetical. Just bolding a different part doesn't negate the exception.

[Bill the Cat]

“And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.” Matthew 19:9 (KJV 1900) She was divorced from an adulterous husband. No except clause in this case.

Context, Dave. The Lord allowed for divorce here in the occurrence of an unfaithful wife. If SHE is the cheater, SHE is not allowed to remarry. This says nothing about the husband after the marriage covenant is revoked.

[Dave L]

Where? post the verse about "the innocently divorced woman committed adultery"

And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

There is nothing about her being innocent there. What are you talking about.

If Jesus wanted to say that anyone who divorces for any reason and remarries is committing adultery, they he would not have bothered to mention an exception, Dave.

He would simply have said: Whosoever shall put away his wife, and shall marry another, committeth adultery.

The fact that he added the exception means that if someone does divorce and remarries for any reason except fornication is committing adultery. The corollary is that if they do divorce for fornication then they CAN remarry.

It's that simple.

“And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.” Matthew 19:9 (KJV 1900) She was divorced from an adulterous husband. No except clause in this case.

[Sparko]

But.... Jesus said the man who married the innocently divorced woman committed adultery even though her husband committed adultery. The except clause does not work in your case. Most churches today promote adultery.

Where? post the verse about "the innocently divorced woman committed adultery"

And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

There is nothing about her being innocent there. What are you talking about.

If Jesus wanted to say that anyone who divorces for any reason and remarries is committing adultery, they he would not have bothered to mention an exception, Dave.

He would simply have said: Whosoever shall put away his wife, and shall marry another, committeth adultery.

The fact that he added the exception means that if someone does divorce and remarries for any reason except fornication is committing adultery. The corollary is that if they do divorce for fornication then they CAN remarry (at least the innocent party can)

It's that simple.

[Cow Poke]

But.... Jesus said the man who married the innocently divorced woman committed adultery even though her husband committed adultery. The except clause does not work in your case.

You got a whole lot of assumin' goin' on there, Dave.

Most churches today promote adultery.

OK, this is silly. It's possible that "most churches TOLERATE adultery", but it's silly to accuse them of "promoting" it.

I "tolerate" adultery, in that I have an adulterous couple attending my Church. I could pitch a hissy and run them off, or I could continue preaching to them, hoping they accept Christ as their Savior.

You seem to be the kind of guy who insists on cleaning his fish before he catches them, Dave.

[Cow Poke]

Would you say that Jesus "promoted adultery" because he kept the bad guys from stoning the woman to death?

[Dave L]

You can come up with as many overly convoluted examples as you want, but Jesus clearly said that you are allowed to divorce your wife if she commits infidelity/fornication. And there is nothing that says that the man cannot remarry after he does that. You should not add to the scripture Dave.

⁹ I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

The "except for sexual immorality" is a parenthetic exemption from the statement: ⁹ I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife ... and marries another woman commits adultery.”

So if she commits sexual immorality then that negates the law that he cannot divorce and remarry.

1. Man divorces wife for some other reason - wrong. If he remarries then he commits adultery.
2. Man divorces wife for infidelity - allowed. If he remarries he does not commit adultery.

But.... Jesus said the man who married the innocently divorced woman committed adultery even though her husband committed adultery. The except clause does not work in your case. Most churches today promote adultery.

[alaskazimm]

As well as Paul giving instructions to the unmarried about whom they can marry. IME a divorced person is unmarried, ergo one who divorces for the proper reason is allowed to remarry. And I think infidelity is the only legit reason for divorce to be permitted.

[Sparko]

Look at it in Young's Literal Translation... [ bolding mine, of course ]

'And I say to you, that, whoever may put away his wife, if not for whoredom, and may marry another, doth commit adultery; and he who did marry her that hath been put away, doth commit adultery.'

Yep and really he is not even denying that you can't divorce your wife for other reasons, just that if you do, then you can't remarry without committing adultery. The only way to avoid committing adultery by remarrying is to divorce because of infidelity.

[Cow Poke]

You can come up with as many overly convoluted examples as you want, but Jesus clearly said that you are allowed to divorce your wife if she commits infidelity/fornication. And there is nothing that says that the man cannot remarry after he does that. You should not add to the scripture Dave.

⁹ I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

The "except for sexual immorality" is a parenthetic exemption from the statement: ⁹ I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife ... and marries another woman commits adultery.”

So if she commits sexual immorality then that negates the law that he cannot divorce and remarry.

1. Man divorces wife for some other reason - wrong. If he remarries then he commits adultery.
2. Man divorces wife for infidelity - allowed. If he remarries he does not commit adultery.

Look at it in Young's Literal Translation... [ bolding mine, of course ]

'And I say to you, that, whoever may put away his wife, if not for whoredom, and may marry another, doth commit adultery; and he who did marry her that hath been put away, doth commit adultery.'

[Sparko]

All four mentioned are committing adultery. (1) The wicked husband and wife (2).
The innocent wife (1) and (2) the innocent man who marries her.

You can come up with as many overly convoluted examples as you want, but Jesus clearly said that you are allowed to divorce your wife if she commits infidelity/fornication. And there is nothing that says that the man cannot remarry after he does that. You should not add to the scripture Dave.

⁹ I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

The "except for sexual immorality" is a parenthetic exemption from the statement: ⁹ I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife ... and marries another woman commits adultery.”

So if she commits sexual immorality then that negates the law that he cannot divorce and remarry.

1. Man divorces wife for some other reason - wrong. If he remarries then he commits adultery.
2. Man divorces wife for infidelity - allowed. If he remarries he does not commit adultery.