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Without turning this forum into a 'hill of foreskins' (Joshua 5:3), I believe we can still have fun with this 'sensitive' topic.
However, don't be misled, dispensationalism has only partly to do with circumcision issues. So, let's not forget about Innocence, Conscience, Promises, Kingdoms and so on.
End time -isms within orthodox Christianity also discussed here. Clearly unorthodox doctrines, such as those advocating "pantelism/full preterism/Neo-Hymenaeanism" or the denial of any essential of the historic Christian faith are not permitted in this section but can be discussed in Comparative Religions 101 without restriction. Any such threads, as well as any that within the moderator's discretions fall outside mainstream evangelical belief, will be moved to the appropriate area.
Millennialism- post-, pre- a-
Futurism, Historicism, Idealism, and Preterism, or just your garden variety Zionism.
From the tribulation to the anichrist. Whether your tastes run from Gary DeMar to Tim LaHaye or anywhere in between, your input is welcome here.
OK folks, let's roll!
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Without turning this forum into a 'hill of foreskins' (Joshua 5:3), I believe we can still have fun with this 'sensitive' topic.
However, don't be misled, dispensationalism has only partly to do with circumcision issues. So, let's not forget about Innocence, Conscience, Promises, Kingdoms and so on.
End time -isms within orthodox Christianity also discussed here. Clearly unorthodox doctrines, such as those advocating "pantelism/full preterism/Neo-Hymenaeanism" or the denial of any essential of the historic Christian faith are not permitted in this section but can be discussed in Comparative Religions 101 without restriction. Any such threads, as well as any that within the moderator's discretions fall outside mainstream evangelical belief, will be moved to the appropriate area.
Millennialism- post-, pre- a-
Futurism, Historicism, Idealism, and Preterism, or just your garden variety Zionism.
From the tribulation to the anichrist. Whether your tastes run from Gary DeMar to Tim LaHaye or anywhere in between, your input is welcome here.
OK folks, let's roll!
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Originally posted by seanD View PostHe also said that a house divided will not stand. Obviously protestantism broke away from the Catholic church for a reason, and God allowed it to happen. So maybe it becomes necessary to decide which house is the true church Christ was referring to. I doubt he was referring to a divided house because then it becomes a contradiction.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by robrecht View PostI would avoid a binary, black & white choice between one or the other. Surely there is error on both sides, not to mention the earlier splits between Western Catholicism and Eastern Orthodox and Oriental churches. There's plenty of error and plenty of truth to go around IMHO.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostIt was a tit for tat reply. Obviously the gates of hell will not stand isn't black and white either.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by seanD View PostHe also said that a house divided will not stand. Obviously protestantism broke away from the Catholic church for a reason, and God allowed it to happen. So maybe it becomes necessary to decide which house is the true church Christ was referring to. I doubt he was referring to a divided house because then it becomes a contradiction.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by seanD View PostHe also said that a house divided will not stand. Obviously protestantism broke away from the Catholic church for a reason, and God allowed it to happen. So maybe it becomes necessary to decide which house is the true church Christ was referring to. I doubt he was referring to a divided house because then it becomes a contradiction.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Jedidiah View PostI seriously doubt that the true Church is an earthly organized body with the absolutely perfect theology. It is, in my opinion, a body composed of all true believers. We will not know who all those are until we reach our final destination. Neither Roman Catholic, any protestant group, or any other church that is not included in those two are the true Church of Christ.
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Yes, Sean, obviously Obama is the Antichrist and Pope Francis is the False Prophet. Any Christian with even a little discernment at least suspects this.
Pope Francis is the first Jesuit pope. The Jesuits were an order founded by a Spanish Illuminist (yes, Illuminati) named Ignatius of Loyola to combat Protestantism. Before anyone accuses me of being a conspiracy theorist, Ignatius' membership in the "alumbrados" is admitted on his Wikipedia page. Alumbrados means Illuminated Ones. The Reformation posed a serious threat to the syncretized faith of Babylonian paganism and Christianity known as Catholicism and soldiers willing to do anything "in service to the Pope" were needed. The Jesuits used any means necessary (they coined the term "the end justifies the means", in fact) to acquire power in their attempt to crush the Protestant rebellion and eventually their loyalty to their own Jesuit General (known colloquially as the "Black Pope") soon exceeded that given to the Pope, leading to several attempts by various Popes to disband the order. A few assassinations solved that, however. The enthronement of one of their own as the "White Pope" signals the promised takeover of the Catholic Church by this Satanic order and their readiness to usher in a world order where Protestants can be slaughtered wholesale.
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Originally posted by Darfius View PostYes, Sean, obviously Obama is the Antichrist and Pope Francis is the False Prophet. Any Christian with even a little discernment at least suspects this.
Pope Francis is the first Jesuit pope. The Jesuits were an order founded by a Spanish Illuminist (yes, Illuminati) named Ignatius of Loyola to combat Protestantism. Before anyone accuses me of being a conspiracy theorist, Ignatius' membership in the "alumbrados" is admitted on his Wikipedia page. Alumbrados means Illuminated Ones. The Reformation posed a serious threat to the syncretized faith of Babylonian paganism and Christianity known as Catholicism and soldiers willing to do anything "in service to the Pope" were needed. The Jesuits used any means necessary (they coined the term "the end justifies the means", in fact) to acquire power in their attempt to crush the Protestant rebellion and eventually their loyalty to their own Jesuit General (known colloquially as the "Black Pope") soon exceeded that given to the Pope, leading to several attempts by various Popes to disband the order. A few assassinations solved that, however. The enthronement of one of their own as the "White Pope" signals the promised takeover of the Catholic Church by this Satanic order and their readiness to usher in a world order where Protestants can be slaughtered wholesale.
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Originally posted by Darfius View PostYes, Sean, obviously Obama is the Antichrist and Pope Francis is the False Prophet. Any Christian with even a little discernment at least suspects this.
Pope Francis is the first Jesuit pope. The Jesuits were an order founded by a Spanish Illuminist (yes, Illuminati) named Ignatius of Loyola to combat Protestantism. Before anyone accuses me of being a conspiracy theorist, Ignatius' membership in the "alumbrados" is admitted on his Wikipedia page. Alumbrados means Illuminated Ones. The Reformation posed a serious threat to the syncretized faith of Babylonian paganism and Christianity known as Catholicism and soldiers willing to do anything "in service to the Pope" were needed. The Jesuits used any means necessary (they coined the term "the end justifies the means", in fact) to acquire power in their attempt to crush the Protestant rebellion and eventually their loyalty to their own Jesuit General (known colloquially as the "Black Pope") soon exceeded that given to the Pope, leading to several attempts by various Popes to disband the order. A few assassinations solved that, however. The enthronement of one of their own as the "White Pope" signals the promised takeover of the Catholic Church by this Satanic order and their readiness to usher in a world order where Protestants can be slaughtered wholesale.
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