. . . the Real Presence in the Eucharist or another Jesus another gospel.

[foudroyant]

and, ultimately, a corpse God.

I think it is more accurate to include His resurrection.

[foudroyant]

What's next, will he tell us that we should celebrate the Eucharist as nudists?

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...m-and-Clothing

Or would that be a polemical misrepresentation of Foudroyant's sacramental theology? If he has a sacramental theology? Is it of any importance whatsoever that we represent his theological convictions correctly or should we just make up the most demeaning characterization we can think of, regardless of whether or not it corresponds to his actual beliefs?

The polemical arguments about what can be seen as a relatively minor difference in attempting to explain a mystery that should be beyond merely rational explanation but rather an expression of faith has turned what Paul saw as a celebration of unity into a theological fighting ground. Regardless of what exactly Christ intended by his words as explained in various philosophical or theological systematic terminology, that was surely not intended.

Rather than polemics, we should dialogue to make sure we understand each others ideas and faith before offering critical reflection, if indeed critical reflection in even welcome once an environment of mutual trust and understanding has been achieved.

You are welcome to go to that thread and respond accordingly. Your attempt at "shock value" simply reveals the inadequacy of your position.

[Spartacus]

I think it is more accurate to include His resurrection.

But it's still accurate to say that you worship a pimply teenaged god who, as an infant, soiled his diapers at least daily.

[foudroyant]

That is what the Lord Jesus was (past) not what He is now (present).

He wasn't a "god"....He always was and still is and will forever be "God".

[Spartacus]

When Jesus was a diaper-soiling baby or a pimply teenager, was he still God?

[foudroyant]

See above.

[foudroyant]

You misunderstand. I wasn't just speaking of the Bible, I was speaking of Jewish literature, in general. It was a popular metaphor in such.

P.S. I'll have the source by either tomorrow, or the next day.

The above is from Post #121.

It's been several more days than this. Do you simply need more time?

[Spartacus]

See above.

Why does the same characterization not apply to the Eucharist?

[foudroyant]

The Lord Jesus is a person not a thing.

[Spartacus]

The Lord Jesus is a person not a thing.

What does it matter?

Get it? Matter?

I'm hilarious.

[foudroyant]

A thing is something that was created.

[Spartacus]

A thing is something that was created.

The human body is also a created thing.

[foudroyant]

But Christ existed before that as a conscious being.
And He is said to be in heaven seated at the right hand of God.

[Spartacus]

Jesus isn't just "a conscious being"-- he is a member of the Trinity. He is God. He is Being itself. He is Who Is.

[foudroyant]

Yeah that's it.

He is who He is? Agree.

"He" is a personal pronoun. He is not an "it". He is not a wafer and definitely not a wafer to be worshiped.