Zeke365 God Lead Messages

[zeke365]

I will start posting dates in the future sorry about that did not see an edit button all messages were were written in 013 the first on and all of 2014

[Jedidiah]

All our life we have been taught to go to church listen to the pastor preach because he the only one that gets incite of the holy spirit (not all pastors are bad and some are walking in their calling.)

Funny this is something I have never heard of before. Any one else ever been taught that only pastors can be stirred by the Holy Spirit?

[Cerebrum123]

Funny this is something I have never heard of before. Any one else ever been taught that only pastors can be stirred by the Holy Spirit?

Not me. I think we have another Mickiel type on our hands.

[Faber]

Funny this is something I have never heard of before. Any one else ever been taught that only pastors can be stirred by the Holy Spirit?

Yeah, several decades ago in a legalistic church. Took my family out of it. A few years later it was learned that he was sexually involved with several foster children. I guess the Holy Spirit must have really been stirring him.

[Christianbookworm]

Some guy that thinks he has special revelation from God? And yet doesn't realize that God would not plagiarise, because He don't have to and plagiarism is wrong.

[Christianbookworm]

Yeah, several decades ago in a legalistic church. Took my family out of it. A few years later it was learned that he was sexually involved with several foster children. I guess the Holy Spirit must have really been stirring him.

There's your problem. Legalistic hypocrites make poor teachers. And Jesus would give him a very stern lecture and shame him like the Pharisees were shamed.

[Faber]

The problem was that legalistic pastors are so high above their congregations that they are accountable to nobody, and do things behind the congregation's backs. There have been many examples of that in the past few decades. We can't question their authority. We are taught to believe that the Holy Spirit leads only through the pastors.

[Christianbookworm]

The problem was that legalistic pastors are so high above their congregations that they are accountable to nobody, and do things behind the congregation's backs. There have been many examples of that in the past few decades. We can't question their authority. We are taught to believe that the Holy Spirit leads only through the pastors.

Sounds like a cult. Those pastors might just end up scrubbing toilets.

[Cow Poke]

Funny this is something I have never heard of before. Any one else ever been taught that only pastors can be stirred by the Holy Spirit?

Never heard or taught that - only a cult leader would claim such.

[Cow Poke]

The problem was that legalistic pastors are so high above their congregations that they are accountable to nobody, and do things behind the congregation's backs. There have been many examples of that in the past few decades. We can't question their authority. We are taught to believe that the Holy Spirit leads only through the pastors.

I LOVE accountability - if I get in trouble, it's the congregation's fault!!!!

(kidding, kinda)

[Christianbookworm]

Indeed. According to the Bible, we are supposed to ask questions and make sure what the speaker is saying is true. Remember the Bereans?

[Dante]

Sounds like a cult. Those pastors might just end up scrubbing toilets.

[Christianbookworm]

Scrubbing toilets was jph's analogy of what would happen to a Christian deserving of no rewards. Seriously, if they were actually saved, what's the worst that could happen to them? A stern lecture? I sure would not want a lecture from Jesus, but I don't know how effective it would be to a spiritual abuser. Those jerks probably think they're in the right and will get an unpleasant wake up call.

[Pentecost]

Funny this is something I have never heard of before. Any one else ever been taught that only pastors can be stirred by the Holy Spirit?

At first I thought he meant that pastors incite the Holy Spirit to work, now I see that he meant that the Spirit gives insight to only pastors.

Neither are things I've ever heard taught.

Zeke, your experience of the church is unlike ours. The church you experienced is not the Church, most of us are not pastors, and all of us know our Bible. I cannot help but feel you have been failed.

[Jedidiah]

I read getting incite of the Holy Spirit as having the Holy Spirit incite them to preaching. I thought of it being an spelling error of insight, but gave him the benefit of the doubt. The sentence was not terribly clear, though you are correct.