Originally posted by Timothy
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Originally posted by Timothy View PostYou voted for Trump knowing he is corrupt.
How bout dialing down the hostility just a tad, eh?
As I said, not my problem.
Would it be fair for me to accuse you of supporting the murder of babies because you support Hillary?
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostHow, exactly, do I (for example) support Trump's corruption?
Would it be fair for me to accuse you of supporting the murder of babies because you support Hillary?
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Which increases the odds of his opponent winning.
You got stats on that?
Loony.
What, exactly, are the trumplicans?
No thanks.
Only if she garnered enough electoral college votes.
SCOTUS is not Hillary's, and religious liberties are being protected. That the Lord chose a jackass to do it is kinda icing on the cake.
I don't follow him. I voted for him, and he's in office until he either gets removed after being impeached, or until he gets voted out.
I wanted Hillary NOT to be POTUS -- I voted for Trump as a protest vote, never really believing Trump had a chance.
Perhaps you should be addressing this little lecture to them.
Who's saying that?
It might if you actually had a point, but all I see is a bunch of conclusion jumping and judgmental lecturing.
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Originally posted by Timothy View PostYes, it's AN alternative.
And the opposite of voting for Trump IS not voting for Trump.
One that too few had considered.
Loony?
Have you noticed how cruel the trumplicans have become?
I'm or asking you to vote for Democrats. If neither side is decent in your opinion, leave the ballot blank.
So Hillary would be president?
Would that be YOUR fault? No. But if you put Trump in office, it IS your fault.
If his behavior represents you, then you are correct to follow him.
Own it, don't make transparent excuses. Hillary is an excuse.
There are still Trump followers even though Hillary is not running in 2020.
Saying "what about Hillary" is an exercise in self deception.
Sorry if this truth hurts.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostNo, that's AN alternative.
If enough of us who were disgusted with Hillary (but not thrilled about Trump) simply didn't vote, Hillary would be POTUS and SCOTUS would be Hillary's. Have you seen how crazy far loony the left has become?
So Hillary would be president? Would that be YOUR fault? No. But if you put Trump in office, it IS your fault. If his behavior represents you, then you are correct to follow him. Own it, don't make transparent excuses. Hillary is an excuse. There are still Trump followers even though Hillary is not running in 2020. Saying "what about Hillary" is an exercise in self deception. Sorry if this truth hurts.
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Originally posted by Timothy View PostThe alternative to voting for Trump is not voting for Trump.
You didn't need to vote for anyone else if you didn't want to.
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostThe first source failed to give an alternative to voting for Trump. The other option was not to vote until an ideal Christian becomes a candidate -- or a viable candidate
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostIt matters to me - if he were loudly proclaiming his faith and still acting the jerk, it would bother me.
It matters to me for the same reason it matters to me with everyone I know - I wanna see EVERYBODY in Heaven. No, I'm not a universalist - just really, really hopeful.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostI'm honestly not all that interested. At most reports from certain Christian leaders about Trump's piety are either correct, or its possible that they're just seeing what they want to see. At the end of the day it just doesn't matter to the voter whether Trump is genuinely a Christian, or whether he politically caters to the Christians.
The Democrats are trying to solve their God problem by touting pro-abortion pro-homosexual candidates as the "right kind" of Christians.
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostYou don't need to be afraid anybody thinks you sound like a universalist there. What you said is pretty much 2 Peter 3:9.
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I accidentally stumbled across this page where Robert Gagnon pushes back forcefully against Never-Trumper David French's attack on Franklin Graham (and accordingly, on other evangelicals who support Trump). Pretty thorough.
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostIt matters to me - if he were loudly proclaiming his faith and still acting the jerk, it would bother me. It matters to me for the same reason it matters to me with everyone I know - I wanna see EVERYBODY in Heaven. No, I'm not a universalist - just really, really hopeful.
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