John 20:28, My Lord and My God

[One Bad Pig]

It doesn't say that,

but "in him"

ἐν αὐτῷ ἐκτίσθη τὰ πάντα = in the image of God everything was created

Howdy, kofhy. How's the self-proclaimed Messiah schtick going?

[Sparko]

It doesn't say that,

but "in him"

ἐν αὐτῷ ἐκτίσθη τὰ πάντα = in the image of God everything was created

Hey Kofthu! I was just looking at your web site. Hilarious! I especially liked the bit about the Vulcan salute!

But no, it says everything was created in and by the Son and everything holds together through him.

and in John 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

So the Son existed before everything and created everything. The only being that describes is God. The Son is God. As is the Father and the Holy Spirit.

[Geert van den Bos]

Hey Kofthu! I was just looking at your web site. Hilarious! I especially liked the bit about the Vulcan salute!

But no, it says everything was created in and by the Son and everything holds together through him.

and in John 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

So the Son existed before everything and created everything. The only being that describes is God. The Son is God. As is the Father and the Holy Spirit.

According to Rashi man was created with a seal https://www.chabad.org/library/bible...showrashi/true

Man was made with a seal, like a coin, which is made by means of a die, which is called coin in Old French

Same idea underlies Mark 12:15-16,

The word "inscription" returns in Mark 15:26,


Not without reason

they crucified the image of God .

Like you do.

[Sparko]

According to Rashi man was created with a seal https://www.chabad.org/library/bible...showrashi/true


Same idea underlies Mark 12:15-16,

The word "inscription" returns in Mark 15:26,


Not without reason

they crucified the image of God .

Like you do.

[Geert van den Bos]

I had a twitter-thread about it.

Not that you are interested, it goes above your comprehension, like also John 1:4 already said: "and the light shines in the darkness, but the darkness cannot get it"

https://twitter.com/Minkmaat/status/1204813480815140864

[Unitarian101]

You are ignoring it says the Son created everything and everything is held together by his power.

16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

If Paul said that about anyone else, he would have been stoned for blasphemy by the other Christians.

[Sparko]

There is no other valid interpretation. The Son is before all things. That means he existed before anything was made. Only God has existed before anything was made. There is only one God. Therefore the Son is God. Jesus is the Son and is the creator of all things.

[Geert van den Bos]

Only God has existed before anything was made.

How do you know?

Was there even a before?

[Sparko]

How do you know?

Was there even a before?

Because I just quoted the verses in the bible that said it.

[Geert van den Bos]

Because I just quoted the verses in the bible that said it.

"before" and "after" are relative, time-bound, notions.

There is no time before time.

Revelation 1:8,


Revelation 21:6,
I [am] the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end.

Not: "I am before the beginning and after the end"

Revealtion 22:13,
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.

Not: "I am before the first and after the last"

[Sparko]

"before" and "after" are relative, time-bound, notions.

There is no time before time.

Revelation 1:8,


Revelation 21:6,
I [am] the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end.

Not: "I am before the beginning and after the end"

Revealtion 22:13,
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.

Not: "I am before the first and after the last"

Um, Revelation 22:13 is Jesus speaking.



He says he is the Alpha and Omega, the First and Last and the Beginning and End. Titles only God has.

[Geert van den Bos]

Um, Revelation 22:13 is Jesus speaking.



He says he is the Alpha and Omega, the First and Last and the Beginning and End. Titles only God has.

I am as eternal as my father is.

To the thirsty I will give from the spring of the water of life for free

for free , German "umsonst"

https://twitter.com/search?q=umsonst...rc=typed_query

[Sparko]

I am as eternal as my father is.

what?

[Geert van den Bos]

what?

German "umsonst" can denote both "in vain" and "gratis, for free".

So to realize that without man creation would have been in vain can make you live for free

[Sparko]

German "umsonst" can denote both "in vain" and "gratis, for free".

So to realize that without man creation would have been in vain can make you live for free

You need to see a doctor.