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Jehovah's Witnesses translation of John 1
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The Jehovah's Witness translation of the Bible is one of the worst in existence.
For a summary see: http://www.towerwatch.com/Witnesses/...ranslation.htm
No actual scholars take it seriously - including non-believing scholars.Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101
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Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View PostThe Jehovah's Witness translation of the Bible is one of the worst in existence.
For a summary see: http://www.towerwatch.com/Witnesses/...ranslation.htm
No actual scholars take it seriously - including non-believing scholars.
So, I told the lady that the next time she showed up at my door I would have something in writing for her to read.
I read the pamphlet -- what a mess!
I'm putting it all together now.
Thanks for your help.
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Originally posted by Christian3 View PostThank you. Every so many weeks a Johovah's Witness shows up at my door with a pamphlet of information. I usually thank them and they leave, but the last time they arrived I spoke to them and asked a few questions. From that conversation, I knew something was wrong with their theology and interpretation of Scriptures.
So, I told the lady that the next time she showed up at my door I would have something in writing for her to read.
I read the pamphlet -- what a mess!
I'm putting it all together now.
Thanks for your help.
I don't know what they are, but I imagine they get hit with this tactic from time to time.Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101
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Ed Dalcour has a good article on it too. http://www.christiandefense.org/jw_nwt.htmThat's what
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Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostEd Dalcour has a good article on it too. http://www.christiandefense.org/jw_nwt.htm
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as God as God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron shall be your prophet.
Meaning moses was not "a god" but represented God to the Aaron and Pharaoh. It is figurative. If John 1:1 is translated correctly in their bible, then it is saying Jesus is LITERALLY a god.
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As far as the translation goes, it is incorrect. Here are a few links for more detailed information:
https://www.jashow.org/articles/gues...s-and-john-11/
https://carm.org/john-1-1-word-was-god
https://carm.org/john-1-1-word-was-god
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Let's hope they don't cotton onto Jesus' comment "you are gods, and the scripture cannot be broken."1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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In pursuit of the aim to show the Christ is not God, I wouldn't be surprised if they did.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Heh? They don't know that Michael is the Holy Spirit?1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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