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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostWhat is an example of a case where the mother's life is in danger?If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!
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There are a couple of very rare immune disorders that onset late in pregnancy however the genuine solution is to deliver the baby and let life take its natural course. There is no reason to outright kill a baby. the old D&X procedure has no use except if the baby is dead and cannot be removed from the uterus and now typically that is done via c-section. It really has no place in society. At one point it had a place but only when the mother and baby were dying and a c-section was unavailable. And this was probably 50 -60 years ago when it last had an actual use. Now none. In a foreign country....it might.A happy family is but an earlier heaven.
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Originally posted by Catholicity View PostThere are a couple of very rare immune disorders that onset late in pregnancy however the genuine solution is to deliver the baby and let life take its natural course. There is no reason to outright kill a baby. the old D&X procedure has no use except if the baby is dead and cannot be removed from the uterus and now typically that is done via c-section. It really has no place in society. At one point it had a place but only when the mother and baby were dying and a c-section was unavailable. And this was probably 50 -60 years ago when it last had an actual use. Now none. In a foreign country....it might.I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostSo you're saying that an abortion to save the life of the mother is basically a myth? I have suspected this.
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostIt has always been an excuse for the pro-death side to use to push their agenda. The circumstances of the mother's life being at risk is very few and far between.I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostI'm actually wondering if--rather than being few and far between--the circumstances even exist at all. Does anyone have any example in which an abortion was required to save a mother's life?
Of course, you could probably go to Planned Parenthood and they will have thousands of examples.
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostI'm actually wondering if--rather than being few and far between--the circumstances even exist at all. Does anyone have any example in which an abortion was required to save a mother's life?That's what
- She
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- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostI have never heard of any.
Of course, you could probably go to Planned Parenthood and they will have thousands of examples.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Pregnancy Mortality Surveillance System reported a higher number for pregnancy-related deaths for 2006-2007, the most recent statistics. It found that 1,294 deaths that occurred within a year of pregnancy termination were pregnancy-related. Why did these women die? There were several causes, including cardiovascular disease, hemorrhage, hypertension, infections and embolisms. A small percentage — 0.6 percent — died from complications related to anesthesia. And 5.6 percent died from unknown causes. That doesn’t mean that an abortion would have saved the life of the mother in those cases, but it does indicate that “modern technology and science” have not made it so women no longer risk death from pregnancy.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostFrom FactCheck.org:
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Pregnancy Mortality Surveillance System reported a higher number for pregnancy-related deaths for 2006-2007, the most recent statistics. It found that 1,294 deaths that occurred within a year of pregnancy termination were pregnancy-related. Why did these women die? There were several causes, including cardiovascular disease, hemorrhage, hypertension, infections and embolisms. A small percentage — 0.6 percent — died from complications related to anesthesia. And 5.6 percent died from unknown causes. That doesn’t mean that an abortion would have saved the life of the mother in those cases, but it does indicate that “modern technology and science” have not made it so women no longer risk death from pregnancy.
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostPro-death proponents don't need no stinkin' facts!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostI'm actually wondering if--rather than being few and far between--the circumstances even exist at all. Does anyone have any example in which an abortion was required to save a mother's life?
And ectopic pregnancies as well although I understand they have made some breakthroughs there.Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.
1 Corinthians 16:13
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Ectopic pregnancies, but I understand in those cases there would be no way for the child to survive anyway, right?"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostEctopic pregnancies, but I understand in those cases there would be no way for the child to survive anyway, right?That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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