Liberals Introduce Plan for Gun Safety - Similar to Safe Sex

[rogue06]

You're right. Obama should have just declared Congress null and void and done something.

That does seem to be his M.O. for governing.

[firstfloor]

Liberals oppose Abstinence Programs in sex education because, they reason, kids are going to have sex anyway, so we might as well tell them how to do it safely - use condoms, etc.

It just stands to reason that, since people (and even kids) are going to get hold of guns anyway, they'll have "gun safety" classes.

Here is a summary of their proposals for gun safety:

[Darth Xena]

And here is where I love being a Libertarian.

You guys wanted State.

Here! Have some State.

Enjoy!

[Sam]

Those aren't safety programs Sam. Safety programs teach you how to handle something safely and more responsibly. Those proposals are far more akin to the abstinence programs in sex education.

Source: https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/wh_now_is_the_time_full.pdf

Launch a national responsible gun ownership campaign: The Administration will encourage gun owners to take responsibility for keeping their guns safe with a national campaign. The campaign will promote common-sense gun safety measures like the use of gun safes and trigger locks, separate storage of guns and ammunition, and the reporting of lost and stolen weapons to law enforcement.

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That's teaching gun safety. If y'all are arguing that tweenagers need to be taught more than "common-sense gun safety measures," that sounds to me more like teaching kids the difference between missionary and cowgirl than the former being comparable to abstinence-only programs.

[Cow Poke]

You're right. Obama should have just declared Congress null and void and done something.

Well, he has a phone and a pen, Sam!

I'm sure he would have gotten wide support from the responsible-gun-ownership lobby.

Yeah, when he WANTS something, he doesn't give a flyin' flip about wide support. How WIDE was the support for Obamacare, Sam?

[Cow Poke]

Those aren't safety programs Sam. Safety programs teach you how to handle something safely and more responsibly. Those proposals are far more akin to the abstinence programs in sex education.

EGGzackly - and we all know how liberals love the abstinence notion.

[Cow Poke]

Source: https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/wh_now_is_the_time_full.pdf

Launch a national responsible gun ownership campaign: The Administration will encourage gun owners to take responsibility for keeping their guns safe with a national campaign. The campaign will promote common-sense gun safety measures like the use of gun safes and trigger locks, separate storage of guns and ammunition, and the reporting of lost and stolen weapons to law enforcement.

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That's teaching gun safety. If y'all are arguing that tweenagers need to be taught more than "common-sense gun safety measures," that sounds to me more like teaching kids the difference between missionary and cowgirl than the former being comparable to abstinence-only programs.

And, AGAIN, I ask -- where is this actually happening in our schools, Sam?

[Sam]

Well, he has a phone and a pen, Sam!



Yeah, when he WANTS something, he doesn't give a flyin' flip about wide support. How WIDE was the support for Obamacare, Sam?

Obamacare passed through Congress first, Cow Poke.

[Sam]

And, AGAIN, I ask -- where is this actually happening in our schools, Sam?

Nowhere that I'm aware. So ... that would mean it's not a policy that even the deeply Conservative-heavy states have sought to implement.

[Cow Poke]

Obamacare passed through Congress first, Cow Poke.

Yeah, with broad bipartisan support, right?

[Cow Poke]

Nowhere that I'm aware.

EGGzackly... but the fact that somebody TALKED about it is good, eh?

So ... that would mean it's not a policy that even the deeply Conservative-heavy states have sought to implement.

This conservative teaches gun safety routinely, and taught both of his daughters both how to shoot AND to handle firearms safely.

HOWEVER, I DID find this blast from the past from a former Surgeon General showing the liberal approach to solving gun violence.....

[Sam]

Yeah, with broad bipartisan support, right?

Doesn't matter. Your argument was that proposals aren't sufficient, that we should see action. But the president can't just do anything anytime and his proposals would have to pass through Congress first (money would definitely have to be appropriated for this sort of program).

So you were complaining that somehow Obama's proposal for a national gun safety campaign was instructive of the difference between people who are satisfied with proposals and the people who want to see things implemented. And you were right ... just not in the way you intended. You're Green Lanterning when it's convenient, knowing full well you'd be right along with the mob freaking out if Obama were to unilaterally implement a mandatory school program that wasn't also 100% NRA approved.

Hell, look at what's happened with Common Core.

[Cow Poke]

Doesn't matter. Your argument was that proposals aren't sufficient, that we should see action.

Yeah, cause "proposals" are just talk.

[Sam]

EGGzackly... but the fact that somebody TALKED about it is good, eh?

So it's not a liberal problem; it's a problem with virtually no one agreeing with this "teach gun safety like safe sex" proposal enough to actually implement it.

Can't see that coming through the context of the OP, either.

[Cow Poke]

You're Green Lanterning when it's convenient, knowing full well you'd be right along with the mob freaking out if Obama were to unilaterally implement a mandatory school program that wasn't also 100% NRA approved.

That is a steaming load of crap, Sam - I'm not beholden to the NRA in any way, shape or form.