Will protecting the unborn be the next civil rights issue?

[Darth Ovious]

Don't mind him. He only sounds like a woman hater.

That's usually the false charge that gets thrown about when certain women don't like to be challenged on the things they do that they would cry about if men were to do them instead. If men behaved in the same manner it would be feminists who would cry out the loudest at what they were doing. Of course they are allowed to do it themselves and if you dare challenge them on it they go ballistic.

[Darth Ovious]

While I don't oppose a male contraceptive I also don't think it's a panacea. You mentioned the sting in the tail. It would likely reduce condom use and that will increase disease spread.

You could use both, but I also forgot to mention that they were studying it's ability for disease control as well. Since it blocks the pathway for sperm it's also been shown it could potentially block the pathway for diseases. That's the theory anyway, but the trials are ongoing so we will wait and see if that is actually what happens.

[Darth Ovious]

I said Jesus was the only exception. That means my statement had to refer to sin in general. Not everyone is okay with abortion.

Like I said, my mistake and I apologise.

[Teallaura]

That's usually the false charge that gets thrown about when certain women don't like to be challenged on the things they do that they would cry about if men were to do them instead. If men behaved in the same manner it would be feminists who would cry out the loudest at what they were doing. Of course they are allowed to do it themselves and if you dare challenge them on it they go ballistic.

No, it's a legitimate response to the charged rhetoric you use. I agree with you on a lot of this but frankly find your indiscriminate use of the jargon grating. Someone who doesn't know you would be perfectly justified in the assumption that you have issues with women as a whole and not merely some branches of feminism.

Incidentally, you undercut your own effectiveness when you alienate half the population.

[Teallaura]

You could use both, but I also forgot to mention that they were studyinparasit ability for disease control as well. Since it blocks the pathway for sperm it's also been shown it could potentially block the pathway for diseases. That's the theory anyway, but the trials are ongoing so we will wait and see if that is actually what happens.

Eh, bacterial, I assume. Whichever, I am highly dubious that it could do both. Then there are the parasites...

No pill has or ever will take the place of personal responsibility.

[Darth Ovious]

No, it's a legitimate response to the charged rhetoric you use. I agree with you on a lot of this but frankly find your indiscriminate use of the jargon grating. Someone who doesn't know you would be perfectly justified in the assumption that you have issues with women as a whole and not merely some branches of feminism.

Untrue and if you knew me you would see that it was untrue. Most unapologetic men think the way I do, they just tend not to be brave enough to say it in the company of women. I don't hate women in the slightest. I just hate the culturally attitude that has been developed in some, NOT all women.

Incidentally, you undercut your own effectiveness when you alienate half the population.

I don't say what I say to be popular. I say what I say because I believe it to be true and I have thought about it and it has been demonstrated to be true to me.

[Darth Ovious]

Eh, bacterial, I assume. Whichever, I am highly dubious that it could do both. Then there are the parasites...

Sure they are parasites but I don't think a condom prevents those anyway. Well not if we are talking about crabs, etc. On a further look it looks like it doesn't stop the spread of diseases as such. Oh well, never mind.

No pill has or ever will take the place of personal responsibility.

I agree. For the most part I look at it from a point of view of helping married couples with their birth control.

[Teallaura]

Untrue and if you knew me you would see that it was untrue. Most unapologetic men think the way I do, they just tend not to be brave enough to say it in the company of women. I don't hate women in the slightest. I just hate the culturally attitude that has been developed in some, NOT all women.



I don't say what I say to be popular. I say what I say because I believe it to be true and I have thought about it and it has been demonstrated to be true to me.

DO, I just got finished telling CBW that you aren't a woman hater. You aren't paying attention to what I wrote. Your rhetoric most certainly is misogynistic and if you don't want us to think that about you then you need to do a better job expressing your views.

It's up to you, but I don't think you're doing any good at all talking the way you do.

[Christianbookworm]

Maybe people should sign a contract that they are ready to potentially have a baby and get tested for STD's before doing a "special hug"

[Darth Ovious]

DO, I just got finished telling CBW that you aren't a woman hater. You aren't paying attention to what I wrote. Your rhetoric most certainly is misogynistic and if you don't want us to think that about you then you need to do a better job expressing your views.

I'm confused. I think I am missing the context of some of this conversation. I apologise if I have accused you of something you did not do.

It's up to you, but I don't think you're doing any good at all talking the way you do.

It's the kind of person I am. I stand for truth. I tend to be a very principled guy.

[KingsGambit]

Maybe people should sign a contract that they are ready to potentially have a baby and get tested for STD's before doing a "special hug"

Or get married.

[Christianbookworm]

Or get married.

That's what the contract's for! In order to have a child, both parties have to make a life long commitment(minimum 30 years, but preferably lifetime) to help each other raise any babies to adulthood. And get screened for sti's.

[Darth Ovious]

Or get married.

I still think we need a test and that you should pass that test first just to make sure that the married couple are competent enough to raise a child.

[Christianbookworm]

I still think we need a test and that you should pass that test first just to make sure that the married couple are competent enough to raise a child.

That might open up another can of worms. Though taking a class would be good. Let's see, a child development class, how to care for baby class, and a test on how to keep baby alive and well.

[Darth Ovious]

That might open up another can of worms. Though taking a class would be good. Let's see, a child development class, how to care for baby class, and a test on how to keep baby alive and well.

We can all but dream.

Too bad I believe in small government and people's freedoms to seriously argue for this. Sometimes I wonder though.