Rape Culture: Why Yes can mean No

[Darth Ovious]

out of curiosity, is that a hard c or a soft c in the cis-man?

I believe you pronoun the c like a s. So phonetically it sounds like sis-man.

[Zymologist]

I believe you pronoun the c like a s. So phonetically it sounds like sis-man.

I've been curious about that too. Looks like I was pronouncing it about right.

[hamster]

straight white males should have their own meetings and clubs and bar non-straight non-white non-males on the grounds that their meeting is not safe for them

[Raphael]

I believe you pronoun the c like a s. So phonetically it sounds like sis-man.

the reason I am asking is in Afrikaans (and so in South Africa) sis roughly means yuck

[Psychic Missile]

Once again, where in the infographic does it explain this? Answer: It doesn't. So whats the point in the infographic other than to have a bash at men or a hissy fit? Do you not think an infographic explaining what you said would be better?

It takes rape tips and flips them around to address victim blaming and shows how ridiculous telling people not to rape is, just as it is ridiculous telling people to not get raped.

I'm not totally familiar with that case so I will need to review it a bit more. If I remember correctly I did think it was rape since the girl was unconscious. I think a lot of people had the idea that because she seemingly consented beforehand that it was OK. And what I mean by seemingly consented was that they were under the impression that she agreed to sex beforehand. Not sure on how they judge that though. I don't hold this view however as I believe that having sex with an unconscious person is rape and there were pictures showing her to be unconscious from what I remember of the situation.

In saying that though I think that is the only case I can remember seeing something like that and I don't remember any other cases since Judge Pickles and his stupid statement.

It the most well known example but it is textbook with the idea that rape victims are at least partly responsible for their rape.

[lilpixieofterror]

Yes, hence why feminists don't target these jobs for gender equality purposes. The main reason is that they not highly paid enough to target. They do however target STEM fields since those jobs do pay well. However they refuse to notice that the highly paid STEM fields require you to do some icky things. One of the jobs I mentioned already is an oil rig worker. They get paid a lot of money because of 3 reasons, 1) There learned knowledge, 2) They work in a dangerous environment and 3) They work anti-social hours and have to spend time away from families for prolonged periods. Women tend to not like reason 2 and 3 on that list but still the feminist machine denies this. they also fail to understand that people who work those types of jobs need to get paid more to do them otherwise nobody would do them. They would do something more comfortable instead in an office somewhere.

I personally enjoy the design and working aspects of things, but I know that isn't for everybody (and trust me, I know these jobs have icky aspects, ever have your entire arm in a gas tank or had your leg soaked with jet fuel?).

[lilpixieofterror]

It takes rape tips and flips them around to address victim blaming and shows how ridiculous telling people not to rape is, just as it is ridiculous telling people to not get raped.

I'm sorry PM, but that is ridiculous and here is a good reason why. When my husband and I went downtown to see a show. There was a sign that said, "Don't leave your valuables unattended". Was that 'blaming the victim' if their car got broke into if they didn't follow this advice? By your logic, it is. So I guess we should just stop telling people ways they could avoid being victims of crimes because it is 'blaming the victim', right? I sure hope that made more sense in your head than it did when you said it out loud.

It the most well known example but it is textbook with the idea that rape victims are at least partly responsible for their rape.

By that insane logic, any tips to try to avoid being a victim of any crime is blaming the victim. Again, I sure hope that sounded better in your head than it did when you said it out loud.

[Teallaura]

Take from this what you will. I think I'm going to start a new thread on this topic actually.



So there you have it. The U.N. are declaring that in order to get equal outcome then the genders need to be treated differently. Of course this means in reality that women get shoved into positions where they don't want to be and men get held back from achieving what they want to achieve.

Mark my words. This will not work and it won't last long.

Anyone else ever read 'The Peter Principle'?

[Darth Ovious]

It takes rape tips and flips them around to address victim blaming and shows how ridiculous telling people not to rape is, just as it is ridiculous telling people to not get raped.

You do realize that the bolded part is what they are doing don't you?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-30245676

http://time.com/2913313/5-things-we-...ape-right-now/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/malika...b_2915635.html

Also as I mentioned earlier on, it's the police job when they give the public tips to protect them from crime. This happens with several different crimes. The police tell people to make sure they lock their doors to their houses and cars. I don't see people screaming at the police to teach thieves not to steal instead.

Also if the police didn't give out rape prevention tips then I guarantee feminists would scream about that and accuse the police of not taking rape seriously since they don't want to protect women from it. It's supposed to be a heads I win, tails you lose situation in regards to them.

It the most well known example but it is textbook with the idea that rape victims are at least partly responsible for their rape.

I don't think it happens all that often though. Well at least in the UK I don't hear anything like that.

[Darth Ovious]

Anyone else ever read 'The Peter Principle'?

I had to look it up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle

The Peter Principle is a concept in management theory in which the selection of a candidate for a position is based on the candidate's performance in their current role, rather than on abilities relevant to the intended role. Thus, employees only stop being promoted once they can no longer perform effectively, and "managers rise to the level of their incompetence."

[Darth Ovious]

No need for due process here. If you're a man accussed then just go to jail, do not pass go and do not collect $200.

[Darth Ovious]

Remember when we talking about men being a significant number of victims in concerns to domestic violence.

Here you go.

[Christianbookworm]

Remember when we talking about men being a significant number of victims in concerns to domestic violence.

Here you go.

What. What do people who have it the other way around do? What if a woman is concerned that she's becoming abusive or a man is getting abused? Why does that page just ASSUME that it's ALWAYS the man beating up the woman? They could be beating each other up. Or the woman could be attacking the man.

[Paprika]

What. What do people who have it the other way around do? What if a woman is concerned that she's becoming abusive or a man is getting abused? Why does that page just ASSUME that it's ALWAYS the man beating up the woman? They could be beating each other up. Or the woman could be attacking the man.

On a related note, domestic abuse in homosexual relationships is also not uncommon.

[Darth Ovious]

What. What do people who have it the other way around do? What if a woman is concerned that she's becoming abusive or a man is getting abused? Why does that page just ASSUME that it's ALWAYS the man beating up the woman? They could be beating each other up. Or the woman could be attacking the man.

It's about controlling the narrative to get more money. It's a sad fact but it's true. The narrative needs to go along the lines of women are oppressed and men are the perpetrators. That is how they get their money when it comes to fundraising. Donators are more likely to put their hands into their pockets if they think it's oppression rather than some couples just beating each other up. You see the moment you show that domestic violence can happen both ways is the moment that people realise that it's a problem with humanity rather than an act of oppression against women.

I remember the man who heads a charity called Mankind once said in an interview that he went to a feminist organisation to ask if they could pull their resources together to better help everyone. He said he was told that he was seen as a competitor and they didn't want to work with them. In other words they wanted the money for themselves and they didn't care that men could also be helped in the process.