Impending Minimum Wage hike causing restaurants to close

[Darth Executor]

Higher income taxes and/or wealth taxes.

How would that raise the employees' salary?

[Cow Poke]

Higher income taxes and/or wealth taxes.

Which would bring about a whole 'nuther wave of tax shelters and offshore money, and/or decrease the motivation to bust one's butt to succeed.

Typical liberal solution.

[Cow Poke]

How would that raise the employees' salary?

Same way gasoline taxes and road and bridge taxes pay for ..... oh, that's right --- our infrastructure is crumbling IN SPITE of all that tax money.

[jordanriver]

The money has to come from somewhere, Sam. In the case of McDonalds, or many of the franchises that pay minimum wage based salaries, the franchisee is, in effect, "middle management", and has a tight budget with which to work. Labor is one of the few controllable costs in such a business, so it's either cut the hours of current employees, cut the number of employees, or dig into his/her own pocket. (or some combination of the three)

Where do YOU suppose that money would come from?

are my posts being edited for everybody else??

In cased you missed it (a hundred times)
I said it could come from the customer, a twenty-cents per dollar increase.


twenty pennies, or 4 nickels, or 2 dimes.

AND IN POST 99 , I cited how , in spite of all the minimum wage increases since the 1970s , the number of people eating at fast food establishments still increased, and the number of fast food stores increases.

The customer pays,

...and why not.

what else? is the customer saying "you feed me, you cook my burger, fry my fries, clean up after me, clean the facilities no matter how big a mess I make using them... oh, and by the way, I want it cheap even if there isn't enough for you to make a living"

??

[Jesse]

I just keep noticing how the liberals here are not volunteering to put up their own money to solve the problem.

For example, if Jordanriver thinks a tip will solve the problem, why doesn't he/she take money from his/her paycheck and tip the employees that he/she supervises to make sure they are making a decent wage?

Of course Sam probably doesn't have a job so I guess he is off the hook.

The left-wing solution to every problem; use other people's money.

[Sparko]

are my posts being edited for everybody else??

In cased you missed it (a hundred times)
I said it could come from the customer, a twenty-cents per dollar increase.


twenty pennies, or 4 nickels, or 2 dimes.

AND IN POST 99 , I cited how , in spite of all the minimum wage increases since the 1970s , the number of people eating at fast food establishments still increased, and the number of fast food stores increases.

The customer pays,

...and why not.

what else? is the customer saying "you feed me, you cook my burger, fry my fries, clean up after me, clean the facilities no matter how big a mess I make using them... oh, and by the way, I want it cheap even if there isn't enough for you to make a living"

??

so go ahead and give nice tips. Make sure you tip everyone who works for you to make sure they get livable wage too. Then convince your fellow liberals to do the same, pretty soon your idea will catch on and all of the liberals will show us conservatives how wrong we are. Your idea, you start. There is no need for government involvement or even for the companies owners to be involved. It is between you and the person you are tipping.

[Sam]

How would that raise the employees' salary?

By paying for a modified EITC such that incomes for working adults are supplemented to meet a standard of living wage, which would be my (loosely) preferred policy.

[Sam]

Same way gasoline taxes and road and bridge taxes pay for ..... oh, that's right --- our infrastructure is crumbling IN SPITE of all that tax money.

Gas tax revenue since 1933.jpg

[Sparko]

By paying for a modified EITC such that incomes for working adults are supplemented to meet a standard of living wage, which would be my (loosely) preferred policy.

Why not help Jordanriver with his Tip idea? You can make a difference in someone's life Sam! Then convince two other liberals to join you and so on. Go for it!

[jordanriver]

Same way gasoline taxes and road and bridge taxes pay for ..... oh, that's right --- our infrastructure is crumbling IN SPITE of all that tax money.

representative government,
...how's that workin out for ya..........


lobbyist: "you cant win without this money"

politician, "and what do I have to do for your contribution?"

lobbyist: "make sure my company gets the bid for roads and bridges"

politician: "I've heard there are a lot of problems with your company"

lobbyist: "whats that got to do with anything, ...look, do you want to get elected or not, I can give this to someone else"

politician: "lets not get hasty, anyway, money or not, how do I get people to vote for me, I don't know anything about roads and bridges"

lobbyist: "oh, that's easy, just tell 'em you're prochoice or something"

politician "but this district is mostly prolife"

lobbyist, "ok then , so just tell 'em you're prolife"

politician "...ah, ...ok , I get it, .......but I'm prochoice"

lobbyist: "whats that got to do with anything, worry about that later, you gotta get elected first"

politician, "right. gotcha"

[KingsGambit]

jordan, your posts would be a lot easier to read with consistent capitalization. Just a friendly suggestion.

[jordanriver]

jordan, your posts would be a lot easier to read with consistent capitalization. Just a friendly suggestion.

Thank You.

[jordanriver]

so go ahead and give nice tips. Make sure you tip everyone who works for you to make sure they get livable wage too. Then convince your fellow liberals to do the same, pretty soon your idea will catch on and all of the liberals will show us conservatives how wrong we are. Your idea, you start. There is no need for government involvement or even for the companies owners to be involved. It is between you and the person you are tipping.

I think I know what kind of world you want.

A world where the unskilled have to come hat-in-hand, like Blanche Dubois

[Sparko]

well JR? are you going to answer my post? or just make ad homs?

What are you doing about your idea? You can start tipping everyone 20% and convince others to do the same. You can take part of your paycheck and give it to your workers. Nobody is stopping you.

Are you going to do it?

[jordanriver]

well JR? are you going to answer my post? or just make ad homs?

What are you doing about your idea? You can start tipping everyone 20% and convince others to do the same. You can take part of your paycheck and give it to your workers. Nobody is stopping you.

Are you going to do it?

sheesh

I don't know why you're balking.

If you are conservative, you probably already tip, like I still do.

The difference with my "idea" is that , then, the liberals who never tip would have to start tipping.