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Any doubt as to why children get killed in Gaza?
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/0...illed-in-gaza/
Shooting from within Homes
http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/idf-...in-homes-video
Hamas terrorists are firing rockets from hospitals
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...a-hospital.phpAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
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Originally posted by seer View PostAny doubt as to why children get killed in Gaza?
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/0...illed-in-gaza/
Shooting from within Homes
http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/idf-...in-homes-video
Hamas terrorists are firing rockets from hospitals
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...a-hospital.php
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Originally posted by Spartacus View Post"Well gosh, how are we supposed to know who's really a civilian, anyway? It's just so hard!!!"
Anyway, it's obvious Israel is trying to ethnically cleanse Gaza. I predicted it would happen sooner or later years ago, but liberals never listen."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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I'm wondering if Israel won't take back at least part of the Gaza as a buffer zone. They are gonna catch heck regardless so they might as well make military gains.
I do think the international outrage is close to backfiring - Israel is getting kinda used to being on the short end of that stick and they may just decide that since the US has abdicated leadership elsewhere and Europe is about as capable as a dishrag that they can probably get away with quite a bit right now. Sound and fury is about all the IC has going for it right now, anyway."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostI'm wondering if Israel won't take back at least part of the Gaza as a buffer zone. They are gonna catch heck regardless so they might as well make military gains.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostConsidering the ever increasing range of the rockets such a move would be futile."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
"Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman
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Originally posted by Spartacus View PostMicah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Jedidiah View PostAccording to that Israel is clearly not guilty of disproportionate and non-discriminating actions.Just war conduct should be governed by the principle of distinction. The acts of war should be directed towards enemy combatants, and not towards non-combatants caught in circumstances they did not create. The prohibited acts include bombing civilian residential areas that include no military targets, committing acts of terrorism and reprisal against civilians, and even attacking neutral targets (e.g. the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor). Moreover, combatants are not permitted to attack enemy combatants who have surrendered or who have been captured or who are injured and not presenting an immediate lethal threat.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
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Originally posted by Jedidiah View PostAccording to that Israel is clearly not guilty of disproportionate and non-discriminating actions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palesti..._rockets_fired
Looking at the proportions, it seems as though an Israeli civilian is worth somewhere between 10 and 100 Palestinians. That's not how proportionality works.
You're proceeding from the assumption that Israel is conducting these operations ethically rather than concluding it based on the evidence.Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostI'm wondering if Israel won't take back at least part of the Gaza as a buffer zone. They are gonna catch heck regardless so they might as well make military gains.
"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Israel doesn't use it's civilian population as shields, and doesn't use schools as munition stores, and doesn't use hospitals as launch sites for rockets aimed at civilian targets.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by Spartacus View PostInflicting hundreds of civilian deaths and thousands of injuries in response to... how many Israeli civilian deaths, exactly? Wikipedia says one death, 16 injuries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palesti..._rockets_fired
Looking at the proportions, it seems as though an Israeli civilian is worth somewhere between 10 and 100 Palestinians. That's not how proportionality works.
You're proceeding from the assumption that Israel is conducting these operations ethically rather than concluding it based on the evidence.
What is the correct proportional percentage of Jews that should be killed?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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A few years ago a couple of school yard bullies decided to film the final in a series of attacks on their favourite victim. One filmed it, the other would hit or kick him walk back a bit, then return to make another strike. Repeatedly. (A lawyer counted the number of assault offences, there were nine.) In the end, during the final attack, the victim had enough, hoisted his assailant in the air to shoulder height and threw him to the ground. He landed on his back. All of it was on mobile phone video. Guess who got expelled? And the school's excuse - the lad was consistently involved in fights in the school. The video gave perfect evidence for why he was always getting in fights.
There are parallels with the constant attacks on Israel, and the world's response to her current retaliation.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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