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  • siam
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    Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
    That American Christianity is so deeply linked with white supremacy will no doubt affront many but the evidence has been presented and while many white Christians will publicly apologise for the history of slavery, condemn segregation, and reject the views and admissions of openly white supremacists, it is alarming that among many white Christians those underlying racist/supremacist tendencies still exist.

    https://www.newyorker.com/books/unde...remacy-problem

    ...Christian who is sincerely concerned about the way the moral teachings of Jesus of Nazareth have been corrupted by white supremacy.
    "...American Christianity is so deeply linked with white supremacy..."---Could it be, historic "Christian supremacy" fosters/encourages other types of supremacy such as American exceptionalism, white supremacy,...etc...? From the very birth of Christianity, an us/them attitude was built into the religion with concepts of Deicide (the whole of the Jews past and present were held responsible) Original sin (the whole of humanity---with the exception of Christians---were held responsible for Adams sin) This type of manichean duality of us=good/them=bad seems to be the inherited paradigm of understanding the world, even among those today who are no longer Christian....
    ...Even American Democracy needed a bogeyman of Communism/Marxism in order to validate itself.

    Human nature is inclined towards tribalism because identity formation relies on degrees of exclusivity of relationships/ties to others. (Family, Community, Nation, Humanity...) Therefore tribalism is not necessarily an exclusively Christian problem.
    But if a paradigm is inherently built on supremacist "morality"---for example, Hinduism has a class structure called cast system which confers privileges to the superior caste and allows (morally) for the exploitation of the inferior class.----then one needs to disown/discard such paradigm?---I don't see how it can be reformed.....?......is plugging/integrating some of the inferior class into the class/power structure of the superiors, really going to solve the core problem of the supremacist based ideology? I have doubts because a paradigm/world-view informs all aspects of life from politics, economics, law, social interactions...etc (Intersectionality)

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  • Gondwanaland
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    Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
    That American Christianity is so deeply linked with white supremacy will no doubt affront many but the evidence has been presented and while many white Christians will publicly apologise for the history of slavery,
    WHy should they have to apologize for something they were not involved in?

    Have you apologized for the Nazis? That happened a hell of a lot closer to current day than slavery in the US.

    Do people coming to the US from Africa have to apologize for the history of Africans selling other africans into slavery?

    Do Muslims have to apologize to white people for the history of Islamic enslavement of whites?


    condemn segregation,
    Oh we're condemning segregation now? Last I checked that (Segregation) is the new working policy of the far left. Over in Britain they're building a blacks only university IIRC. Here in the US on universities, they are setting up 'no whites' zones/rooms.

    Did that all suddenly change?
    Last edited by Gondwanaland; 09-06-2020, 08:25 PM.

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  • Reepicheep
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    Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
    In his book Jones notes that the origin of the schism between Baptists in the South and their fellows in the North was precipitated over the request from Baptists in Alabama that would permit slave owners to act as missionaries. That group, led by Basil Manly, wrote a letter in 1844 to the Triennial Convention over this issue and received a blunt reply that stated under no circumstances could slave owners be appointed as missionaries. That rejection led, in 1845, to Manly and his fellows forming their own organisation, the Southern Baptist Convention [SBC]
    The good news is that, just over three years ago, the Southern Baptist Convention voted to denounce white supremacy and the alt-right movement. Baby steps, baby steps...

    https://www.wglt.org/post/southern-b...-past#stream/0

    Southern Baptist Pastor Confronts His Own, Church's Racial Past
    June 22, 2017

    The Southern Baptist Convention, one of the largest denominations in the country, voted recently to denounce white supremacy and the alt-right movement, but not without controversy.

    Initially, church leaders tried to table the resolution, which was proposed by a prominent African American pastor. The vote proceeded, however, following a backlash from members who condemned the alt-right movement as a "growing menace" to society and recalled the Southern Baptists' painful history of promoting and sustaining slavery.

    "Any 'church' that cannot denounce white supremacy without hesitancy and equivocation is a dead, Jesus-denying assembly," tweeted one African American Southern Baptist minister...

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  • American Christianity�s White-Supremacy Problem

    That American Christianity is so deeply linked with white supremacy will no doubt affront many but the evidence has been presented and while many white Christians will publicly apologise for the history of slavery, condemn segregation, and reject the views and admissions of openly white supremacists, it is alarming that among many white Christians those underlying racist/supremacist tendencies still exist.

    https://www.newyorker.com/books/unde...remacy-problem

    this tacit shared commitment to white superiority and black inferiority, was a central bridge that fostered the rather swift reconciliation between southern and northern whites overall, and southern and northern white Christians specifically.New Yorker article continues:

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