To Destroy America - BLM

[JimL]

I'm all for peaceful demonstrations.



Any "protests" involving the wanton destruction of private property, businesses, assaults on police stations, chaos and mayhem, and are not loudly and clearly denounced by the "protesters", give me reason to question the legitimacy of this "movement".



I think if you were here, I'd have to slap you with a fish - talk about saying "ignorant things".

So, if peaceful protests are infiltrated by thugs and hoodlums, or white supremecists, then the protests themselves should be outlawed? Sounds like the charge that authoritarian governments make.

[Cow Poke]

So, if peaceful protests are infiltrated by thugs and hoodlums, or white supremecists, then the protests themselves should be outlawed?

No, we've been through this before. The alleged "peaceful protesters" should loudly and clearly denounce the violence and expose, or remove themselves from, the troublemakers. Instead, they are protecting them.

Sounds like the charge that authoritarian governments make.

Your arguments sound like the arguments a moron would make.

[JimL]

No, we've been through this before. The alleged "peaceful protesters" should loudly and clearly denounce the violence and expose, or remove themselves from, the troublemakers. Instead, they are protecting them.

They do denounce it, just like I do, you just can't, are incapable of, or just refuse, to hear it.

Your arguments sound like the arguments a moron would make.

Back at ya, buddy.

[seanD]

Michael German.

Former FBI folks aren't credible sources for this. You had a former FBI head actually appear on national TV last year and claim Trump was sending out secret nazi codes to his white supremacist base by lowering the flag on Aug. 8, because, he argued, it represented "Heil Hitler" (H/H being the 8th letter of the alphabet).

[seanD]

Just like the people who opposed the civil rights movement back then.

Like Joe Biden!

[RumTumTugger]

That would be impressive if it occurred. Entire cities burned down? That would be a famous historical event on par with the Great Fire of London of 1666.

someone doesn't understand hyperbole.

Yawn. As much as I would like to see there be a significant group of Marxists in the US, there just isn't unfortunately.

As much as I hate to say this it looks like Starlight just admitted he's a Communist

It's safe because things that happen only in your imagination don't pose actual risks to the real world.

None So Blind.. 100 nights of so called peaceful protests turning violent in Portland, Oregon alone by an avowed Marxist organization BLM if this is what Marxism brings we in America don't want it. Apparently you are ok with that Sorry Starlight I refuse to accept the newspeak from you Marxists who try to tell us the opposite of the truth, #Riots Are Not Protests #Violence Is Not Peaceful. .

[Ronson]

Antifa marches down the street chanting "death to America". Leftists continue to insist that antifa aren't bad guys, that they aren't even organized, but will invent stories about how Trump is unpatriotic. Just plain insane.

[Cow Poke]

They do denounce it, just like I do, you just can't, are incapable of, or just refuse, to hear it.

Maybe you're senile, because you're constantly trying to pretend that these "peaceful protesters" are somehow "infiltrated" by right wing extremists, or some such idiotic blather.

[JimL]

Maybe you're senile, because you're constantly trying to pretend that these "peaceful protesters" are somehow "infiltrated" by right wing extremists, or some such idiotic blather.

So, you don't see peaceful protesters, only the violence. How convenient for you, CP. And if you don't think right wing extremists are there, then you are blinder, or suffering from cognitive dissonance, more so than I thought.

[Cow Poke]

So, you don't see peaceful protesters, only the violence. How convenient for you, CP. And if you don't think right wing extremists are there, then you are blinder, or suffering from cognitive dissonance, more so than I thought.

Yet another steaming load from CrapCentral.

[Ronson]

So, you don't see peaceful protesters, only the violence.

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[Starlight]

someone doesn't understand hyperbole.

What I understand is that you guys are using hyperbole to lie to yourselves and each other about BLM and unduly work yourselves into a tizzy over it.

As much as I hate to say this it looks like Starlight just admitted he's a Communist

Surrrreee, you just "hate" to say that, with glee.

And, also, you're wrong. I'm not a communist, and certainly didn't say I was.

I think the US political spectrum is very biased to the right by international standards. I think the US would benefit from more diversity of opinion and would have a healthier political culture if more viewpoints were represented. I also think that if there was stronger left-wing groups, regardless of where on the left they were, it would drag the average US position (and thus its government, because politicians tend to pander to the center) more toward an internationally-centrist political position and out of its current right-wing extremism. That is why I want more marxism in the US.

100 nights of so called peaceful protests turning violent in Portland, Oregon

Do you understand that turning violent contrasts with the previous peacefulness? You guys seem to want to merge the categories of violence and peace in order to lie to yourselves and pretend all the protests were always violent.

by an avowed Marxist organization BLM

That seems false. One of the founders considering herself marxist doesn't make the organisation marxist, and you've gone further and called it "an avowed Marxist organisation", since the organisation itself makes no claims of being a marxist organisation your statement is factually false.

I refuse to accept the newspeak

You're the one with the newspeak. You support the 'hyperbole' used to make BLM protesters out to be awful thugs burning down entire cities. You conflate peace and violence. You conflate marxism and communism and BLM.

from you Marxists who try to tell us the opposite of the truth

More projection. Your post is full of falsehoods so you accuse me of being untruthful.

[rogue06]

Yet people like you branded the entire civil rights movement as a communist conspiracy and thugs who just want to riot and loot.

I think what you've seen here is that the group, Black Lives Matters (BLM), which makes no bones about their radical Marxist roots and beliefs, has been castigated for being what it is...

This may come as a bit of a shock but you can believe that black lives matter without supporting Black Lives Matter. And calling out BLM is not the same as attacking the entire civil rights movement.

[Cow Poke]

I think what you've seen here is that the group, Black Lives Matters (BLM), which makes no bones about their radical Marxist roots and beliefs, has been castigated for being what it is...

This may come as a bit of a shock but you can believe that black lives matter without supporting Black Lives Matter. And calling out BLM is not the same as attacking the entire civil rights movement.

Which is why many of my black friends, who are very much into the civil rights movement, blast BLM as hurting the cause. Really really stupid white people are fooled into believing they're somehow being virtuous by kissing BLM's butt.

[JimL]

I think what you've seen here is that the group, Black Lives Matters (BLM), which makes no bones about their radical Marxist roots and beliefs, has been castigated for being what it is...

This may come as a bit of a shock but you can believe that black lives matter without supporting Black Lives Matter. And calling out BLM is not the same as attacking the entire civil rights movement.

Correct. So why don't you leave the organization BLM out of it, because it is about black lives matter not about the BLM. The problem is that you want to make about BLM so you can rave about marxism, socialism, communism, anything but the actual issue which is systemic racism and police and justice system reform.