Democrats get Green Party kicked off ballot in Montana

[CivilDiscourse]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem...-senate-ballot

State Democrats succeeded in kicking the Green Party off the ballot in Montana this week, with the Montana Supreme Court ruling that they must be dropped.

They did this by harassing signatories of the voting petition until they "unsigned" the petition (post certification).

Who needs to suppress the vote, so long as you make sure they can only vote for the person you want them to.

[Stoic]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem...-senate-ballot



They did this by harassing signatories of the voting petition until they "unsigned" the petition (post certification).

Who needs to suppress the vote, so long as you make sure they can only vote for the person you want them to.

Sounds like politics as usual in Montana; something the Republicans would be happy to do if the sides were switched.

[seer]

Sounds like politics as usual in Montana; something the Republicans would be happy to do if the sides were switched.

But isn't that vote suppression? Something the the Dems are always whining about?

[Sparko]

But isn't that vote suppression? Something the the Dems are always whining about?

Yep. Worse. It's more like what they do in dictatorships like Russia or Venezuella where you only have the choice to "vote" for who they want you to.

[KingsGambit]

I would call it more along the lines of voter intimidation.
Covid has made this year very difficult for third parties as the petition requirements have not been relaxed.

[Ronson]

I would call it more along the lines of voter intimidation.
Covid has made this year very difficult for third parties as the petition requirements have not been relaxed.

Jo Jorgenson has made it difficult for Libertarians. I'm about to bail out.

[Mountain Man]

Sounds like politics as usual in Montana; something the Republicans would be happy to do if the sides were switched.

So give the Democrats a pass based on the unfounded assumption that Republicans would do the same thing if they could?

That's a stupid argument.

[JimL]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem...-senate-ballot



They did this by harassing signatories of the voting petition until they "unsigned" the petition (post certification).

Who needs to suppress the vote, so long as you make sure they can only vote for the person you want them to.

More shananigans by the unprincipled republican party. There was a 5-2 ruling by the state Supreme Court that the Republican party was guilty of "campaign finance fraud" and "negligent representation" in misleading Montana voters. Four of those who filed suit were people who had signed the negligently represented petition to put the Green party on the ballot. Typical of the GOP who were nailed by the Montana court in 2018 as well when they submitted false signatures submitted by people who did not collect them. There is no end to the unprincipled political parties attempt to steal elections.

[JimL]

So give the Democrats a pass based on the unfounded assumption that Republicans would do the same thing if they could?

That's a stupid argument.

It's the Republicans who were found guilty here, not the democrats. What you're upset about is that they got caught once again.

[Terraceth]

Jo Jorgenson has made it difficult for Libertarians. I'm about to bail out.

Could you specify what you're referring to here?

[Mountain Man]

It's the Republicans who were found guilty here, not the democrats. What you're upset about is that they got caught once again.

Quote from the opening post:

"State Democrats succeeded in kicking the Green Party off the ballot in Montana this week, with the Montana Supreme Court ruling that they must be dropped."

So I don't know what you're going on about.

[JimL]

Quote from the opening post:

"State Democrats succeeded in kicking the Green Party off the ballot in Montana this week, with the Montana Supreme Court ruling that they must be dropped."

So I don't know what you're going on about.

Of course you don't. Look into it and you might find out. Or read post #8.

[Mountain Man]

More shananigans by the unprincipled republican party. There was a 5-2 ruling by the state Supreme Court that the Republican party was guilty of "campaign finance fraud" and "negligent representation" in misleading Montana voters. Four of those who filed suit were people who had signed the negligently represented petition to put the Green party on the ballot. Typical of the GOP who were nailed by the Montana court in 2018 as well when they submitted false signatures submitted by people who did not collect them. There is no end to the unprincipled political parties attempt to steal elections.

That's a rather, shall we say, "creative" interpretation of the facts, but nothing you say is supported by the source in the opening post.


Apparently Democrat operatives harassed the signers, calling them on the phone as much as 20 times and badgering them to revoke their signatures despite the fact that there is no procedure for doing so in Montana.

[CivilDiscourse]

More shananigans by the unprincipled republican party. There was a 5-2 ruling by the state Supreme Court that the Republican party was guilty of "campaign finance fraud" and "negligent representation" in misleading Montana voters. Four of those who filed suit were people who had signed the negligently represented petition to put the Green party on the ballot. Typical of the GOP who were nailed by the Montana court in 2018 as well when they submitted false signatures submitted by people who did not collect them. There is no end to the unprincipled political parties attempt to steal elections.

You know how I can tell you aren't truthful? Appellate Courts, (Of which supreme courts are) don't determine guilt/innocence.

So, a State Supreme Court cannot find a group "Guilty" of campaign Finance Fraud.

[Ronson]

Could you specify what you're referring to here?

She was placating the BLM group, meeting with and acting like she was in solidarity with them. That's not what the party should be about.