Postoffices are quietly getting rid of sorting machines head of election.

[Sparko]

Polling places have been closed in some localities, resulting in some people waiting as long as six hours to vote in the primary this spring. The process of choosing which locations to close can easily be politicized.

Well, then fix that.

Much less costly than gearing up the post office for handling millions of mail in ballots and then having to wait weeks or months to find out who won.

[seer]

Well, then fix that.

Much less costly than gearing up the post office for handling millions of mail in ballots and then having to wait weeks or months to find out who won.

Over 80,000 mail-in ballots disqualified in NYC primary mess

1 out of 4 mail-in ballots were disqualified for arriving late, lacking a postmark or other defects

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ove...c-primary-mess

[Mountain Man]

Over 80,000 mail-in ballots disqualified in NYC primary mess

1 out of 4 mail-in ballots were disqualified for arriving late, lacking a postmark or other defects

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ove...c-primary-mess

The argument I've seen is that these kinds of "errors" are random and so affect both parties equally. But, of course, we have no way of knowing that, and elections should not be decided by random errors anyway.

[seer]

The argument I've seen is that these kinds of "errors" are random and so affect both parties equally. But, of course, we have no way of knowing that, and elections should not be decided by random errors anyway.

It is more about the mess we are going to have afterward...

[JimL]

Well, then fix that.

Much less costly than gearing up the post office for handling millions of mail in ballots and then having to wait weeks or months to find out who won.

It's voter suppression plain and simple. Texas for example has closed hundreds of polling sites, some 750, the majority of them in black and latino counties. And that can't be fixed if the state (republican) leadership doesn't want to fix it. Mail in voting is not something they can so easily manipulate to their advantage which is why Trump is now, just in time for the election, trying to sabotage the postal service.


http://www.texasobserver.org/texas-p...place-closures

What do you think Trump appointed a cronie million dollar donater who knows nothing about the postal service as postmaster general for?

[Sparko]

It's voter suppression plain and simple. Texas for example has closed hundreds of polling sites, some 550 of them in black and latino counties. And that can't be fixed if the state (republican) leadership doesn't want to fix it. Mail in voting is not something they can so easily manipulate to their advantage which is why Trump is now, just in time for the election, trying to sabotage the postal service.
http://www.salon.com/2020/03/03/vote...-latino-areas/

http://www.texasobserver.org/texas-p...place-closures

LOL. If the mail is not so easily manipulated then why do you and all of the liberals have the vapors? The post office doesn't receive federal funding in the first place, you already said they can handle Christmas cards, so all's good then. Trump can't withhold funding if they don't get any in the first place, right?

Pick a stance. Either the mail is already reliable and can't be manipulated or defunded, or it can be and it is not reliable. which is it?

[Mountain Man]

It is more about. the mess we are going to have afterward...

Before, during, and afterward.

[JimL]

LOL. If the mail is not so easily manipulated then why do you and all of the liberals have the vapors? The post office doesn't receive federal funding in the first place, you already said they can handle Christmas cards, so all's good then. Trump can't withhold funding if they don't get any in the first place, right?

Pick a stance. Either the mail is already reliable and can't be manipulated or defunded, or it can be and it is not reliable. which is it?

For 1) The USPS is under the control of Congress and they are in the red because under the Bush Administration in 2006 the Congress forced them to to fund retirees healthcare 75 years into the future. The USPS is a non=profit public service under the control of Congress who often rob the surplus to pay for other pet projects of their own. And 2) It isn't only about the funding, it's about the dismanteling of sorting machines each one of which sort 35,000 peices of mail per hour as well as other measures taken to slow the process. No one was making a stink about the needed funding until the purposeful dismanteling of the system was recognized and reported on by postal workers themselves. As I said you must either be in denial or you are complicit with rigging the election.

Btw, the corrupt postmaster general has just agreed to stop messing with the system. I guess being caught and being called in to testify in front of Congress had an effrect.

[Sparko]

For 1) The USPS is under the control of Congress and they are in the red because under the Bush Administration in 2006 the Congress forced them to to fund retirees healthcare 75 years into the future. The USPS is a non=profit public service under the control of Congress who often rob the surplus to pay for other pet projects of their own. And 2) It isn't only about the funding, it's about the dismanteling of sorting machines each one of which sort 35,000 peices of mail per hour as well as other measures taken to slow the process. No one was making a stink about the needed funding until the purposeful dismanteling of the system was recognized and reported on by postal workers themselves. As I said you must either be in denial or you are complicit with rigging the election.

Dang you caught me! I am in charge of stealing the mail trucks.

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Btw, the corrupt postmaster general has just agreed to stop messing with the system. I guess being caught and being called in to testify in front of Congress had an effrect.

[KingsGambit]

Well, then fix that.

Much less costly than gearing up the post office for handling millions of mail in ballots and then having to wait weeks or months to find out who won.

That's done on a state level.

If somebody does get infected in October, do you really want them going to the polls?

[Sparko]

That's done on a state level.

If somebody does get infected in October, do you really want them going to the polls?

They can use the normal absentee ballot system. Nobody is trying to stop that. Just against trying to make an entire state using mail-in as the default which will overload the system no matter what the funding, and cause delays in getting election results.

[Reepicheep]

Btw, the corrupt postmaster general has just agreed to stop messing with the system. I guess being caught and being called in to testify in front of Congress had an effrect.

That's one reason. Another significant reason is that he is being sued by Washington state , Colorado, Connecticut, Illinois, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia, Wisconsin, California, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, Delaware, Maine and North Carolina.

[JimL]

That's one reason. Another significant reason is that he is being sued by Washington state , Colorado, Connecticut, Illinois, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia, Wisconsin, California, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, Delaware, Maine and North Carolina.

Yes, I heard that just after posting.

[JimL]

They can use the normal absentee ballot system. Nobody is trying to stop that. Just against trying to make an entire state using mail-in as the default which will overload the system no matter what the funding, and cause delays in getting election results.

It will, as I previously pointed out, only overload the system because of the measures that the Trump cronie is taking to mess up the system.

[JimL]

Dang you caught me! I am in charge of stealing the mail trucks.

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Obviously you are one of those who are complicit with the undermining of your democracy.