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    This video gives the testimony of the military-veteran nurse about the atrocities in NYC Elmhurst hospital. This public hospital was pushing people to their deaths in this poor neighborhood. She also testifies to the success of use of HCQ+Zine in her home state's hospital. There are also additional doctors testifying to their use of HCQ+Zinc.

    The NYC hospital also was said to have a Do-Not-Resuscitate policy even for patients that should be resuscitated (and did not ask for DNR).

    http://153news.co.uk/153News_files/v...ndemic%209.mp4

    Here's a screen shot from the video, since tweb does not show images for mp4
    NYCNurseDocumentary.jpg


    Her testimony explains some of the increased number of deaths among minorities since most patients in the NYC hospital were Black, Hispanic and Asian
    Last edited by mikewhitney; 08-04-2020, 10:38 PM.

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    Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
    This video gives the testimony of the military-veteran nurse about the atrocities in NYC Elmhurst hospital. This public hospital was pushing people to their deaths in this poor neighborhood. She also testifies to the success of use of HCQ+Zine in her home state's hospital. There are also additional doctors testifying to their use of HCQ+Zinc.

    The NYC hospital also was said to have a Do-Not-Resuscitate policy even for patients that should be resuscitated (and did not ask for DNR).

    http://153news.co.uk/153News_files/v...ndemic%209.mp4


    Her testimony explains some of the increased number of deaths among minorities since most patients in the NYC hospital were Black, Hispanic and Asian
    It remains at best a limited treatment in conjunction with other meda and treatments. Anecdotal claims is not research. Zinc only is effective to a limited degree againsst viruses in small doses. This has neen known for a very long time. Best disolved under the tongue.
    Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
    Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
    But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

    go with the flow the river knows . . .

    Frank

    I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
      It remains at best a limited treatment in conjunction with other meda and treatments. Anecdotal claims is not research. Zinc only is effective againsst viruses in small doses. This has neen known for a very long time.
      Thanks for your kindly contribution here.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
        It remains at best a limited treatment in conjunction with other meda and treatments. Anecdotal claims is not research. Zinc only is effective to a limited degree againsst viruses in small doses. This has neen known for a very long time. Best disolved under the tongue.
        You mean kinda like cloth face masks?
        That's what
        - She

        Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
        - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
          You mean kinda like cloth face masks?
          No, the actual research and statistics demonstrate the HCQ has some, but limited effect, best when combined with other medications, and absolutely no evidence of any preventive value. The maks, and social distancing has been demonstrated to have preventive value. When these are not followed as in bars, pubs, churches, and parties there is wide transmission of the infection.
          Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
          Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
          But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

          go with the flow the river knows . . .

          Frank

          I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
            No, the actual research and statistics demonstrate the HCQ has some, but limited effect, best when combined with other medications, and absolutely no evidence of any preventive value. The maks, and social distancing has been demonstrated to have preventive value. When these are not followed as in bars, pubs, churches, and parties there is wide transmission of the infection.
            There's your real preventative value right there, not the mask. Both masks and HCQ require other factors to have a benefit.
            That's what
            - She

            Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
            - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

            I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
            Stephen R. Donaldson

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
              You mean kinda like cloth face masks?
              I realize this is anecdotal ...

              My wife washes her hands a lot and almost never gets sick - colds or influenza (I've only recently, since covid, been doing a lot of handwashing and haven't been sick yet).

              I have a dry-eye condition that causes me to rub my eyes often - and I get sick all the time. Based on this, I'm convinced that virus transmission is mostly via surfaces and not through the air, unless someone is coughing or sneezing very close by.

              So face masks ... pffft. Not very effective IMO.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                I realize this is anecdotal ...

                My wife washes her hands a lot and almost never gets sick - colds or influenza (I've only recently, since covid, been doing a lot of handwashing and haven't been sick yet).

                I have a dry-eye condition that causes me to rub my eyes often - and I get sick all the time. Based on this, I'm convinced that virus transmission is mostly via surfaces and not through the air, unless someone is coughing or sneezing very close by.
                If you notice someone coughing or sneezing nearby, it's a little late to put on your mask. And you'd be surprised how far droplets can travel from some people just talking.

                Also, it's not a good idea to generalize from colds or influenza to all viruses. Measles transmits very readily through the air. Evidence shows that covid-19 does also, just not as well as measles.


                So face masks ... pffft. Not very effective IMO.
                You are welcome to your opinion. I'll stick with the science.

                https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/41...-masks-prevent

                "There’s little evidence that fomites (contaminated surfaces) are a major source of transmission, whereas there is a lot of evidence of transmission through inhaled droplets, said (infectious disease specialist) Chin-Hong."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Stoic View Post
                  If you notice someone coughing or sneezing nearby, it's a little late to put on your mask.
                  That would be the other direction. It would be too late for them to put on a mask, since they are meant to hinder transmission and not reception.

                  And you'd be surprised how far droplets can travel from some people just talking.

                  Also, it's not a good idea to generalize from colds or influenza to all viruses. Measles transmits very readily through the air. Evidence shows that covid-19 does also, just not as well as measles.

                  You are welcome to your opinion. I'll stick with the science.

                  https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/41...-masks-prevent

                  "There’s little evidence that fomites (contaminated surfaces) are a major source of transmission, whereas there is a lot of evidence of transmission through inhaled droplets, said (infectious disease specialist) Chin-Hong."
                  As far as the evidence and the experts, I consider what they come up with. But there are a lot of people like Kim Prather running around that insist the sky is falling, and they taint the pool.

                  I do wear a mask in my region, although they are not required. It's not a big deal for me.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                    That would be the other direction. It would be too late for them to put on a mask, since they are meant to hinder transmission and not reception.
                    From the link I gave in my last post:
                    “I think there’s enough evidence to say that the best benefit is for people who have COVID-19 to protect them from giving COVID-19 to other people, but you’re still going to get a benefit from wearing a mask if you don’t have COVID-19,” said Chin-Hong.


                    As far as the evidence and the experts, I consider what they come up with. But there are a lot of people like Kim Prather running around that insist the sky is falling, and they taint the pool.
                    From a quick search, I can see that Kim Prather has said that masks work, and that we'd be much better off if everyone wore them. I'm not sure what she has said that bothers you.

                    I do wear a mask in my region, although they are not required. It's not a big deal for me.
                    That's what I don't get. It shouldn't be a big deal for anyone, unless they have respiratory problems, and those people shouldn't be out and about anyway.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                      You mean kinda like cloth face masks?
                      more u know.jpg
                      Please note the source.

                      I'm always still in trouble again

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Stoic View Post
                        From a quick search, I can see that Kim Prather has said that masks work, and that we'd be much better off if everyone wore them. I'm not sure what she has said that bothers you.
                        She's famous for claiming that beaches should be closed because raw sewage lapping in the waves will spray covid on beach-goers.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                          She's famous for claiming that beaches should be closed because raw sewage lapping in the waves will spray covid on beach-goers.
                          Okay, I'll grant you that that seems a bit over-the-top.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                            There's your real preventative value right there, not the mask. Both masks and HCQ require other factors to have a benefit.
                            Since there are no known drugs that are shown to be preventive before infection all we have is masks and social distancing. Vaccines are on the horizon, but the uncertainty of the degree of the protection of vaccines is a big unknown. As in flus the vaccines have a variable effectiveness. As an OSHA inspector I realise the limits of the masks used, but nonetheless they have a degree of preventive value for people in public or among the vulnerable in enclosed space. There are a number of designs of improved masks that are more effective.
                            Last edited by shunyadragon; 08-05-2020, 05:11 PM.
                            Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                            Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                            But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                            go with the flow the river knows . . .

                            Frank

                            I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
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                              Please note the source.
                              Too bad it can't be verified that that came from the CDC.

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