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Originally posted by Ronson View PostThat's what I asked you, since you are the one declaring which governments are lawful. I asked if you considered the Gaddafi government and the Assad governments were lawful.
You have to define what you understand as lawful. So far you have singularly failed to do so."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by RumTumTugger View PostI am sorry about that, I do know you are a she, some times my mind goes faster then my fingers which then skip a keystroke or 2. I forgot to check for Typos and need to be remember to do that more often."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostYou have to define what you understand as lawful. So far you have singularly failed to do so.
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Originally posted by Ronson View PostIn spite of the fact that I asked you first (since you were the one using the term, not me), I will answer anyway: There is no such thing as a "lawful" government - except one that is determined by those being governed by it. The colonists had no representation in Parliament - so from the colonist's perspective it was not a legitimate government.
However, the colonists had a degree of autonomy.Last edited by Hypatia_Alexandria; 08-01-2020, 07:37 PM."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostI agree that was their perception. However, it was not the perception of the British government. The colonists were not unique in having no representation in Parliament. Most other British subjects had none either given the electoral system in place at that time and the limited entitlement of those eligible to vote.
However, the colonists had a degree of autonomy.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWhich they chose to exercise with gusto."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostI agree that was their perception. However, it was not the perception of the British government.
The colonists were not unique in having no representation in Parliament. Most other British subjects had none either given the electoral system in place at that time and the limited entitlement of those eligible to vote.
However, the colonists had a degree of autonomy.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostI agree that was their perception. However, it was not the perception of the British government...
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostBut only for the white property owning classes!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Ronson View PostI'll back off after this. It may only be semantics, but your use of the word "lawful" riled me. There is no universal body to determine when a government is "lawful" or not. Now, you can say an "established" government or a "recognized" government and I will not protest. But neither determines "lawful.""It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnother nasty habit we learned from the Brits!"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostYou did not learn it from the Brits, many of those American colonists had antecedents that were British and in various respects still regarded themselves as English gentlemen, albeit resident in the colonies.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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