How do you attempt to rationalise with the completely irrational?

[Ronson]

Exhibit D

https://www.breitbart.com/tag/deep-state/

Anything specific that can be addressed?

[Mountain Man]

You believe evolution is a hoax and called the Lucy fossil suspect. We're talking about conspiracy theories and the tendency to believe in grand-scale hoaxes.

I recall saying that some of the claims made about the Lucy fossil were a hoax and not that the actual fossil was fabricated. This is why I said you were missing some context.

[whag]

Anything specific that can be addressed?

Those are all of Breitbart's deep state articles.

[seanD]

I linked to him using deep state in the context of COVID.

The FBI and CIA attempted to blackmail MLK with pictures of him in an adulterous affair. There is a difference between that and what Trump is trying to do with his deep state dog whistles.

Also, remember that he asked FBI for loyalty, which is not a good way to start one's presidency.

We've had four years of Obama admin/DoJ/FBI revelations of malfeasance and (at least the firm belief by the right) that they tried to sabotage Trump's campaign. That's what he's referencing when he says "deep state." His and the right's belief these institutions, along with the democrats are trying to sabotage him. All the stuff you pointed out about "satanic cabal of pedophiles" dog whistles I doubt is even on his radar.

[whag]

I recall saying that some of the claims made about the Lucy fossil were a hoax and not that the actual fossil was fabricated. This is why I said you were missing some context.

In scientific debate, unsupported claims aren't called "hoaxes." The term "hoax" has historically been used to convince Christians that evolution is a hoax when it's actually the most successful scientific theory, confirmed strongly by genetics and fossil evidence.

[whag]

We've had four years of Obama admin/DoJ/FBI revelations of malfeasance and (at least the firm belief by the right) that they tried to sabotage Trump's campaign. That's what he's referencing when he says "deep state." His and the right's belief these institutions, along with the democrats are trying to sabotage him. All the stuff you pointed out about "satanic cabal of pedophiles" dog whistles I doubt is even on his radar.

You don't know Trump if you think he's not aware of popular QAnon theory that he's dismantling global pedophilia network. As an opportunist with a huge ego, he'll cater to those types with "deep state" dog whistles.

[seanD]

You don't know Trump if you think he's not aware of popular QAnon theory that he's dismantling global pedophilia network. As an opportunist with a huge ego, he'll cater to those types with "deep state" dog whistles.

I've never heard him reference that, once. Maybe he did, but I've never heard him do it. I don't even think he's referenced Q directly, though I'm less sure of that. In fact, he even wished Ghislaine well (the madam of a REAL pedophile ring).

[whag]

I've never heard him reference that, once. Maybe he did, but I've never heard him do it. I don't even think he's referenced Q directly, though I'm less sure of that. In fact, he even wished Ghislaine well (the madam of a REAL pedophile ring).

That's why they're called "dog whistles," sean.

Wishing Ghislaine well could have been a "dog whistle" to Maxwell. He can get away with that with his followers because he knows his base is so stupid, he could openly shoot someone and still get elected.

[seanD]

That's why they're called "dog whistles," sean.

Wishing Ghislaine well could have been a "dog whistle" to Maxwell. He can get away with that with his followers because he knows his base is so stupid, he could openly shoot someone and still get elected.

Wishing Ghislaine well was a dog whistle to her?

[whag]

Wishing Ghislaine well was a dog whistle to her?

It's possible because it's inexplicable why he'd wish her well since she's universally regarded as guilty. Yes, we know Trump was friends with her.

[seanD]

It's possible because it's inexplicable why he'd wish her well since she's universally regarded as guilty. Yes, we know Trump was friends with her.

What was the message to her that only she understood?

[Charles]

That's why they're called "dog whistles," sean.

Wishing Ghislaine well could have been a "dog whistle" to Maxwell. He can get away with that with his followers because he knows his base is so stupid, he could openly shoot someone and still get elected.

Here is a possible explanation as to why some some of the complicit evangelicals are acting like they do:

Written by Anne Applebaum in History Will Judge the Complicit - Why have Republican leaders abandoned their principles in support of an immoral and dangerous president?

[Ronson]

Those are all of Breitbart's deep state articles.

Your contention is that no "deep state" exists whatsoever?

[Charles]

What was the message to her that only she understood?

If whag can explain the message it will, by definition, not be the message "that only she understood". You might want to change your question...

[seanD]

If whag can explain the message it will, by definition, not be the message "that only she understood". You might want to change your question...

If you have a theory that he's sending her a message that only she understands, then you must have a theory about what that message is.