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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIs the preamble considered part of the legal code?
The Preamble is the foundation as well as the Constitution as a whole for the enactment of laws. The possibility of secession is not granted in the Constitution nor the law.As cited the courts found that secession from the Union to be unconstitutional.Last edited by shunyadragon; 07-19-2020, 04:12 PM.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThe legal code as well as all court decisions are based on the Preamble and the Constitution.
The Preamble is the foundation as well as the constitution as a whole for the enactment of laws. The possibility of secession is not granted in the Constitution nor the law.As cited the courts found that secession from the Union to be unconstitutional.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostCan you name a single court case that has been decided based on the Constitution's preamble? And I mean a case that has explicitly cited it as legal precedent.
I cite the court case Texas vs White that determined that the secession of Texas from the Union was Unconstitutional.
The Constitution was the basis for the decision as is all Court decisions in the history of the United States.
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The courts ultimately determine the Constitutionality of laws and interpretations of the Constitution. The Courts have determined that secession is illegal.Last edited by shunyadragon; 07-19-2020, 04:27 PM.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostYou refuse to put your finger on it it is in the Preamble of the Constitution declaring a 'more perfect union,' with no provision for the states to secede.
that indeed the new Constitution inherited perpetuity from the language in the Articles and from other actions done prior to the Constitution. Historian Kenneth Stampp explains their view:
Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThe writings I cited used the Preamble 'a more perfect union' was was grounds to reject secession.
I cite the court case Texas vs White that determined that the secession of Texas from the Union was Unconstitutional.
The Constitution was the basis for the decision as is all Court decisions in the history of the United States.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThe writings I cited used the Preamble 'a more perfect union' was was grounds to reject secession.
I cite the court case Texas vs White that determined that the secession of Texas from the Union was Unconstitutional.
The Constitution was the basis for the decision as is all Court decisions in the history of the United States.Last edited by Mountain Man; 07-19-2020, 08:19 PM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostDid the Supreme Court cite the preamable as their reason for saying that secession was illegal? What law did they actually cite? So far your answers have not been very impressive.
Seer is correct the Supreme Court decisions are NOT based on previous laws, but the decisions are based on whether the decision is justified based on the Constitution and NOT previous laws.
These are the facts of the Supreme Court decisions in history regardless of which part of the Constitution the decision is based on.
I did cite a previous historian that referenced the Preamble, and yes the Federalist Papers and previous writings do develop the the interpretation in history that are often the basis of the interpretations that the Supreme Court referenes for their interpretation..Last edited by shunyadragon; 07-19-2020, 10:01 PM.
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Originally posted by seer View PostAgain, which law did the South violate? The Court can say what it wants, but based on what law?
Thank you for changing your picture. Your previous picture wa san embarrasment.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostSupreme Court decisions in history, as cited, are not based on previous laws, but whether the decision or law is based on the Constitution.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostSupreme Court decisions in history, as cited, are not based on previous laws, but whether the decision or law is based on the Constitution.
Thank you for changing your picture. Your previous picture wa san embarrasment.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThe decision was based on the Constitution and not any law, because there is no law prohibiting secession.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostStatistical Sparko, statistical. Read more carefully.
And whether you realize it or not, the fact you are white has made you getting to where you are easier than if you had been born black, all other things being equal.
But I don't think anything will change your mind on this so..
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