Denmark among few countries not advising or requiring masks.

[JimL]

They're not trying to use COVID to oust a sitting president.

Well, maybe he should have gotten • Edited by a Moderator • and done something instead of downplaying it. Though there are more reasons than his inept response to Covid-19 to oust the lawless, treasonous, wannabe dictator.

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[oxmixmudd]

They're not trying to use COVID to oust a sitting president.

Not talking about a president. Just talking about a large population that has not been able to be educated as to the seriousness of the disease and that has been misled as to why it is necessary to practice things like social distancing etc to help reduce its spread. I doubt Denmark has to cope with that level of ignorance, making it easier to adopt as less forceful mask wearing recommendation.

[JimL]

IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, it appears.



Wearing a condom is effective in certain circumstances, but that doesn't mean you should wear one all the time.

Well in certain circumstances when wearing a condom a mask might be helpful as well.

[Cow Poke]

Well in certain circumstances when wearing a condom a mask might be helpful as well.

If you have the morals of an alley cat, maybe.

[Cow Poke]

Not talking about a president. Just talking about a large population that has not been able to be educated as to the seriousness of the disease and that has been misled as to why it is necessary to practice things like social distancing etc to help reduce its spread. I doubt Denmark has to cope with that level of ignorance, making it easier to adopt as less forceful mask wearing recommendation.

Jim, I know you have denied that this thing is political. But it most certainly is, and that fuels the resistance.

One of the reasons that a large populace has "not been able to be educated", as you put it, is that they flat out don't believe the hype from the same doom-and-gloomers who claim the sky is falling about other situations. There is a WHOLE LOT of hype, particularly with regards to my own State, that simply does not match the situation on the ground.

[mikewhitney]

Let's just stop wearing masks and, for those where not counterindicated, take hydrocholoroquine proactively if concerned. We no longer need to suffer coronaphobia

[Leonhard]

Let's just stop wearing masks and, for those where not counterindicated, take hydrocholoroquine proactively if concerned. We no longer need to suffer coronaphobia

I disagree with this. Hospital personal and other people handling Corona patients benefit from mask use. Physical distancing worked, as did hand sanitizing. The scientific consensus is that hydrochloroquine is not a good treatment, and it should definitely not be taken pro-actively. That act has already killed people.

[mikewhitney]

I disagree with this. Hospital personal and other people handling Corona patients benefit from mask use. Physical distancing worked, as did hand sanitizing. The scientific consensus is that hydrochloroquine is not a good treatment, and it should definitely not be taken pro-actively. That act has already killed people.

chloroquine has been taken proactively against Malaria for a long time. The withdrawn study showed chloroquine didn't work. There are studies showing it does work. If you might have it, Pulmicort has worked too.

It is fine if hospital personnel see reason to wear the masks around cuomovirus patients. Other than that, we just don't have any doubleblind studies showing physical distancing or hand sanitization works. It is all hearsay. There simply is no need to suffer from coronaphobia any more, at least for the healthier younger population. The "cure" (quarantines and economic shutdown) are killing more people than the cuomovirus itself.

[Leonhard]

chloroquine has been taken proactively against Malaria for a long time. The withdrawn study showed chloroquine didn't work. There are studies showing it does work.

There are many studies, the consensus of them is heading towards it not doing much.

Other than that, we just don't have any doubleblind studies showing physical distancing or hand sanitization works. It is all hearsay.

It's called the germ theory of disease. We've had evidence for that since the 1880s. Disease is spread by germs, in this case viruses. Handwashing kills bacteria and denatures viruses. Physical distancing prevents you breathing in particles from a person.

[mikewhitney]

There are many studies, the consensus of them is heading towards it not doing much.



It's called the germ theory of disease. We've had evidence for that since the 1880s. Disease is spread by germs, in this case viruses. Handwashing kills bacteria and denatures viruses. Physical distancing prevents you breathing in particles from a person.

There are germs and maybe viruses. We are talking about coronavirus here rather than germs. Plus, we have to be exposed to germs and viruses in order to exercise our immune system.

The problem I have with the current practices for cuomovirus is that they have not been promoted for the general population of people before. There simply is no reason to think the novel cuomovirus is any different. People who are younger than 55 or 60 could live life normally. Some people who are 55 or older might want to take precautions, but this would depend on how much they want to enjoy life compared to how much "risk" they will accept of getting exposed to coronavirus.

There are too many costs we are paying for this questionable response to the virus. The worst thing is that the mainstream media simply push fear upon us instead of solutions.

[Leonhard]

There are germs and maybe viruses.

There are germs and viruses. There's no maybe on viruses.

Plus, we have to be exposed to germs and viruses in order to exercise our immune system.

To an extent, but we don't need to be exposed to corona virus.

[mikewhitney]

There are germs and viruses. There's no maybe on viruses.

I have seen some discussion on virus theory but am not sure how substantial this is. The coronavirus is structurally indistinguishable from exosomes, the latter being debris excreted from cells.

To an extent, but we don't need to be exposed to corona virus.

There are no specific viruses that we need to be exposed to, but apparently there are billions in small amounts of sea water. There is little reason to be so cautious for this one virus (or for most viruses). It is just time to get beyond the fear promoted by the media.

[JimL]

I have seen some discussion on virus theory but am not sure how substantial this is. The coronavirus is structurally indistinguishable from exosomes, the latter being debris excreted from cells.



There are no specific viruses that we need to be exposed to, but apparently there are billions in small amounts of sea water. There is little reason to be so cautious for this one virus (or for most viruses). It is just time to get beyond the fear promoted by the media.

I just don't understand why we need learned scientist who study this stuff for decades when we have you mike.

[mikewhitney]

I just don't understand why we need learned scientist who study this stuff for decades when we have you mike.

You need both. I help point you to the science that clarifies things. I point you away from the media that promotes fear. If we had learned media, my work would be much simpler.

[Leonhard]

I have seen some discussion on virus theory but am not sure how substantial this is.

It's quite substantial, we can both image them, have a model of how they work and we've sequenced their DNA.

There is little reason to be so cautious for this one virus (or for most viruses).

It's more lethal than the flu, and it is rather infectious.