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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostIt was obviously the masks that made the difference. The masks also helped keep coronavirus from spreading among people in Antarctica
I would also note that HK has probably 8+ orders of magnitude higher population density than Antarctica.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post<<I dont like wearing masks and could care less what the facts are.>>My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post(As an aside, I will never understand why people who preach "science" are so in love models when models are not science. A model is nothing more than a hypothesis. Science is about what has actually been proven with repeated observation and testing. So when someone says "science" but they really mean "models" then they're just trying to sell you the Brooklyn Bridge.)
A model is just a useful abstraction for a more complex phenomenon which we aren't able to tractably simulate / predict / compute. Your take is lunacy.
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Originally posted by DivineBoob View PostMM, isn't the entire science of chemistry built around atomic / molecular models? Isn't the Newtonian view of gravity based around models? Aren't CPUs tested in the lab primarily based around the single stuck at fault model? Arent trillions, if not quadrillions, of $ worth of securities exchanged every day on the basis of economic modelling? Didn't I earn a PhD by predicting the performance of different CPU features based around simpler processor models?
A model is just a useful abstraction for a more complex phenomenon which we aren't able to tractably simulate / predict / compute. Your take is lunacy.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post<<I don't have a good rebuttal, so I'm going to turn my opponent's lengthy argument into a straw man and pretend I'm somehow being witty.>>Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThat's not what it says. It says that ordinary cloth masks MAY protect others, which is the equivalent of saying that they MAY NOT protect others.
Wearing a cloth facemask may not protect others.
Not wearing a facemask at all will not protect others.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Ignorant Roy View PostWearing a cloth facemask may protect others.
Wearing a cloth facemask may not protect others.
Not wearing a facemask at all will not protect others.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain ManThat's not what it says. It says that ordinary cloth masks MAY protect others, which is the equivalent of saying that they MAY NOT protect others.
Apparently you don't care that you might pass on a nasty virus to some-one more vulnerable than yourself, because you think wearing a mask might you look less manly. Morons like you are killing people.
900 Americans died unnecessarily yesterday. The US needs a new motto. Something like "My uncle died of Covid, but it was worth it to get my hair cut".Last edited by Roy; 07-15-2020, 07:45 AM.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Roy View PostWhich, as per your previous comment, is the equivalent of saying that it MAY harm others. Especially if you are in the 1% of the US population that has been infected.
Apparently you don't care that you might pass on a nasty virus to some-one more vulnerable than yourself, because you think wearing a mask might you look less manly. Morons like you are killing people.
900 Americans died unnecessarily yesterday. The US needs a new motto. Something like "My uncle died of Covid, but it was worth it to get my hair cut".That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Ignorant Roy View PostMorons like you are killing people.
I can guarantee that me not wearing an ineffective face covering while buying food to feed my kids has not killed a single person even if paranoid idiots like you look on in horror at my unmasked glory.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
I can guarantee that me not wearing an ineffective face covering while buying food to feed my kids has not killed a single person even if paranoid idiots like you look on in horror at my unmasked glory.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI can guarantee that me not wearing an ineffective face covering while buying food to feed my kids has not killed a single person
I mean, if you're going to disagree about mask effectiveness, there's nothing anyone can do about that.
But don't lie about it. You cannot guarantee that no one has died as a result of your behavior, and every claim to the contrary is a bald-faced lie.
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostApparently, you assume everyone is an active carrier...Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Roy View PostNo, I don't. Learn to read.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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