"Abortion is murder"

[Cow Poke]

I want to be sure that if I use the term "baby killer" at some future time on this board that I'm not crossing a line.

Wow. I'll bet context won't be considered.

It is only important insofar as it's viewed as an accurate term to use.

You'll please forgive me if I doubt your sincerity?

[Cow Poke]

So you don't do that to the actual, as you suggest them to be, baby killers, but you just apply the term to those (pro-choicers) who don't agree with you that they are baby killers?

And again....

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[DesertBerean]

Ah, well.... I'm kind of a weird duck among the pro-life, I guess.... I'm more about compassion for those who have been duped into abortion, and more into anger against those who profit from the murders.

Maybe I've spent way too much time with the actual victims of this culture of death to want to hate them or label them.

Agreed. I would have them show compassion to all .... except the type that brag about having abortions. That kind of behavior proves they KNOW it's wrong but they don't CARE.

[Cow Poke]

Agreed. I would have them show compassion to all .... except the type that brag about having abortions. That kind of behavior proves they KNOW it's wrong but they don't CARE.

EGGzackly!

[JimL]

And again....

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It's your position that's stupid, CP, not my words. If it is your opinion that women having abortions are killing their babies, then why are you afraid to call them what you believe they are?

[JimL]

Agreed. I would have them show compassion to all .... except the type that brag about having abortions. That kind of behavior proves they KNOW it's wrong but they don't CARE.

Who brags about having an abortion?

[Cow Poke]

It's your position that's stupid, CP, not my words.

Then show a little intelligence and expose my error.

If it is your opinion that women having abortions are killing their babies,

That's pretty clear.

then why are you afraid to call them what you believe they are?

I'm not afraid - I'm simply not as cold-blooded uncaring and judgmental as you are. I have explained my position in detail, you're just too stubborn or stupid or ignorant (or all of the above) to comprehend it.

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[DivineOb]

Wow. I'll bet context won't be considered.

What possible context could apply which would change a dispassionate statement of fact?

You'll please forgive me if I doubt your sincerity?

It's a free country... at least until Biden gets in office.

[Bill the Cat]

Who brags about having an abortion?

The entire "shout your abortion" crowd.

[Cow Poke]

What possible context could apply which would change a dispassionate statement of fact?

This is Tweb.

It's a free country... at least until Biden gets in office.

If Biden keeps making 'fiery speeches' like he made today, they'll be escorting him to his room at the rest home.

[DivineOb]

This is Tweb.

You claim that I wouldn't consider context. I'm asking what that context might be which would make it improper for me to explore the facts of the case.

If Biden keeps making 'fiery speeches' like he made today, they'll be escorting him to his room at the rest home.

He's not Trump. That's all it takes for 270 EC in this election.

[DesertBerean]

Who brags about having an abortion?

An actress after accepting some kind of award. Don't know her name. Pro-abortion protestors holding up signs. And I see somebody already mentioned the crowd that shout it out.

[rogue06]

The entire "shout your abortion" crowd.

Little jimmy is being dishonestly duplicitous here -- IOW, he's being little jimmy.

He's seen this more than once:

OBP has already exposed the falsity of these declarations.

Also, nobody is pro-abortion

Yes they are.

Unfortunately there are those who see abortions as being something to celebrate and are unhappy when abortion numbers drop and happy when they go up.

From a few short past posts:

Celebrating abortions:

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Among certain elements it is virtually becoming a sacrament.

Earlier this year Planned Parenthood was able to gather 20 religious leaders to blessWhat to Get a Friend Post-Abortion" guide including this

Happy about increased abortions:

Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains, located in Las Vegas, Nevada (Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's turf) gave its Aurua, Colorado abortion clinic an award for increasing the number of babies killed in abortions.

Source: Planned Parenthood Gives Clinic Award for 'Exceeding Abortion Visits' of Previous Year

Proving once and for all that Planned Parenthood's business is abortion, Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains gave its Aurora abortion clinic an award certificate for "exceeding abortion visits [in the] first half of FY12 compared to the first half of FY13."

Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains is the 2nd largest Planned Parenthood facility in the U.S.

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The picture of the award was snapped by a former worker who saw it posted on a bulletin board in Denver. The board displays awards satellite clinics have earned.

The award challenged the Planned Parenthood worker's thinking, since it showed that clinics were given abortion "quotas" to meet, and that this particular clinic had "exceeded" expectations and received an award for doing so.

From a blog post by Abby Johnson, former Planned Parenthood director turned pro-life advocate:

Ever since I left Planned Parenthood, I have been talking about the abortion quotas that are established inside abortion facilities. Many abortion supporters refused to believe it, citing that surely Planned Parenthood wants abortion to be safe, legal and RARE. If they want something to be RARE, they certainly wouldn't have quotas, right?

Planned Parenthood had a net revenue of $1.21 billion last year, and received $540.6 million in U.S. taxpayer funding.


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So much for wanting to make abortions rare but safe and legal when you award clinics for increasing the number of abortions

Unhappy when abortion rates drop:

For years the pro-abortion crowd has told everyone that they want to make abortion "safe, legal and rare." For instance back in 2008 Hillary Clinton proclaimed at a campaign event that she thought abortion should be "safe, legal and rare, and by rare I mean rare." But the reality of the situation is that some really are not interested in the rare part and see a decrease in abortions as being a bad thing.

Case in point, in a tweet earlier this week Cosmopolitan magazine, a long time major advocate for abortions, lamented an increase of babies born in Texas after that state defunded organizations, such as Planned Parenthood, that provide abortions.

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The link in the tweet goes to a Cosmo story about a study conducted by the Texas Policy Evaluation Project at University of Texas Austin which found a 1.9% "increase in the birthing rate in counties that once had state-funded Planned Parenthood clinics." And as can be seen by the accompanying sad-face emoji in the tweet Cosmo thinks that people having more babies and less abortions is a negative result.

So much for "safe, legal and rare" -- or at least for the last part. But then what can you expect from a magazine that last year started a campaign trying to get women to say how great abortions are (#ShoutYourAbortion). After all, why would you want to make something that is so positive a rare thing?

I could add more recent examples like the jubilant celebration in New York when they made it legal to abort babies for any reason right up to the moment of birth.

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And Gov. Cuomo even ordered bridges and government buildings be decorated with pink lights to celebrate allowing unborn babies to be killed for any reason whatsoever right up to the moment of birth.

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Please note how Cuomo himself characterizes it

Michelle Wolf, the host of Netflix's "The Break with Michelle Wolf" (where she recently asked her audience the question "Are You Sort Of Hoping We Don't Get Peace With North Korea So You Wouldn't Have To Give Trump Credit?" and 71% said "yes") devoted a portion of her 4th of July episode celebrating abortions (calling it a "Salute to Abortion") shouting "God bless abortions and God bless America." She talked at length about how women have the unique ability to create life and then cheered on the idea that they should terminate those lives.

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When I brought some of this up before Adrift noted "Lena Dunham's podcast last year [2016] when she claimed that she wished she could have an abortion as a stand of solidarity for women's rights."

Again and again the left puts the lie to their claim that they don't like abortion and that they want to make it as rare as possible. They literally rejoice in their iniquity.

So tell me again how "nobody is pro-abortion."

[DivineOb]

An actress after accepting some kind of award. Don't know her name. Pro-abortion protestors holding up signs. And I see somebody already mentioned the crowd that shout it out.

Did you actually watch the speech? She wasn't bragging.

https://www.vox.com/culture/2020/1/5...-rights-choice

[rogue06]

An actress after accepting some kind of award. Don't know her name. Pro-abortion protestors holding up signs. And I see somebody already mentioned the crowd that shout it out.

From a recent post responding to Tassman mocking MM's statement that some starlets have said abortions boosted their careers:

Now as for actresses... What would you say about Lena Dunham, who in her podcast in 2016 declared that she wished she could have an abortion as a stand of solidarity for women's rights? Pretty cavalier wouldn't you say?

And how about Busy Phillips who, only a little over a week ago, declared that her abortion was the reason for her professional success?

"There I was sitting in Los Angeles in my beautiful office of my own late night talk show. Soon I would be driving my hybrid car to my beautiful [f-bomb] home to kiss my two beautiful and healthy children and my husband, who had taken the year off to parent so I could focus on my career. And I have all of this, all of it, because I was allowed to have bodily autonomy at 15."

And how about Michelle Williams, who during her Golden Globes acceptance speech this January also credited having an abortion for her success declaring that



Please note how the Time magazine article points out how the audience of actors and actress (and other Hollyweird types) applauded her comments.

And maybe, just maybe, a better way to "choose when to have children, and with whom" is to not sleep around. Seems to be better than killing your mistakes.


ETA: Back in 2019 Alyssa Milano revealed that she had two abortions in 1993 because she wanted to focus on her career and was "not ready to be a parent."