And it's not even so much the circumstances in 2020, but the fact he keeps tweeting and retweeting some of the most imbecilic stuff imaginable and at the worse time. He's his own worse enemy. It's as if he's trying to lose reelection. I think the only hope we have at this point is that the Dem's are also their own enemy. But if they drop Biden for someone else...
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Originally posted by seanD View PostAnd it's not even so much the circumstances in 2020, but the fact he keeps tweeting and retweeting some of the most imbecilic stuff imaginable and at the worse time. He's his own worse enemy. It's as if he's trying to lose reelection.
Back then, most polls which heavily favored Clinton pointed to Trump's willingness to say things that'd normally get a candidate (effectively) disqualified, or an election loss; they were obviously wrong. Since having been voted into office, he's continued saying stuff that would otherwise get a politician into trouble.
Through all this time, support for him really hasn't wavered too much. The people who stand by him don't really seem concerned with what he says.
So I guess I'm asking why you think his latest statements (from the last 6 months?) might impact his ability to get re-elected. As far as I can tell, he can say anything he wants, with impunity.
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Originally posted by Whateverman View PostI'm assuming you voted for Trump in 2016; please correct me if I'm wrong:
Back then, most polls which heavily favored Clinton pointed to Trump's willingness to say things that'd normally get a candidate (effectively) disqualified, or an election loss; they were obviously wrong. Since having been voted into office, he's continued saying stuff that would otherwise get a politician into trouble.
Through all this time, support for him really hasn't wavered too much. The people who stand by him don't really seem concerned with what he says.
So I guess I'm asking why you think his latest statements (from the last 6 months?) might impact his ability to get re-elected. As far as I can tell, he can say anything he wants, with impunity.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostIt's not so much his statements. He was always bombastic, blunt, and petty when it came to internet "troll wars." It's the fact that I just think he's an idiot, thus incapable of planning any type of election strategy. There are so many ways he could have at least took advantage of this situation for political reasons, but he didn't. And he even made it worse. I honestly think he pretty much just threw in the towel. He's not even trying anymore.
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Originally posted by Whateverman View PostFair enough, thanks.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostDo you HAVE to be so cotton pickin agreeable?
I'm sure if I spend enough time here, I will eventually morph into someone who can be pigeonholed into agreeing with only one side and always disagreeing with the other. Give it some time :)
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Originally posted by Whateverman View PostThis is a web forum I haven't been on in a while, which means I have a chance to "reinvent" myself here. I'm trying to do that.
I'm sure if I spend enough time here, I will eventually morph into someone who can be pigeonholed into agreeing with only one side and always disagreeing with the other. Give it some time :)The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAh, ok.... so, so far, you and me --- we good, yes?
Even with people I routinely disagree with, I try to respond to their prima facie posts (unless I know they're habitual trolls).
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostMeh, I'm not always batting for the same team, though I'm certainly accused of that.
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Donald Trump's approval rating has never reflected someone with a chance at re-election. That fact that today his answer remains "smash the protests" shows just how unsuited he is for the moment. All he has at this point is his narcissism and sadism.
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Originally posted by Whateverman View PostYes! I never meant to imply otherwise.
Even with people I routinely disagree with, I try to respond to their prima facie posts (unless I know they're habitual trolls).
I'm happy when I find find people with nuanced positions, on anything. It's the ones who reject any possibility of nuance that I mistrust...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostI think he'll be re-elected. The US Democrats haven't launched a strong enough push.victory.
I'm not saying Trump wont be re-elected. I just think that this particular electoral history is unlike everything any living US voter has ever encountered; we should be careful of holding it to "normal" standards.
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Originally posted by Whateverman View PostTo be fair, the last 4 months have been dominated by pandemic; I don't think any party could launch a strong campaign under the same conditions.
I'm not saying Trump wont be re-elected. I just think that this particular electoral history is unlike everything any living US voter has ever encountered; we should be careful of holding it to "normal" standards.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostI think he'll be re-elected. The US Democrats haven't launched a strong enough push. I'd be surprised if Trump manages to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.Have You Touched Grass Today? If Not, Please Do.
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