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Ahmaud Arbery; racist killing and attempted cover up.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostBumping this question.That's what
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Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI've been wondering about this. What's the actual law? Do you have a source? Because if that's true then any claim of self-defense goes out the window.
When making a citizen's arrest, a person may not use more force than is reasonable to make the arrest. Deadly force is limited to self-defense or to instances in which such force is necessary to prevent certain felonies.
It must be stressed that the right of private citizens to make a citizen's arrest is limited. They cannot arrest people for violating local ordinances or regulations because these violations are not technically crimes as defined by state law. Therefore, as a private citizen, you would not have the authority to arrest a person who is creating a disturbance by making too much noise. In addition, a private person can only make a citizen's arrest for the purpose of bringing the suspect before a judicial officer
https://www.georgialegalaid.org/reso...-during-arrest
So, I guess the big questions will be how Georgia law defines immediate knowledge and how they allow for suspicion of committing a felony.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostHas it been concluded that the shotgun was ever trained on Arbery, or merely toted at the waist?
So the question is, who provoked who? It's hard to say.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Except they likely didn't know he was unarmed at the time, and it appears the decision to pull the trigger was made only after Arbery attempted to wrestle the shotgun away.
I really don't know how this case is going to end up, but I will not be surprised if it's ruled self-defense.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYou're right... it has nothing to do with any of the underhanded things Obama did during and after the election.
Of course I can't prove it, and I'm not going to claim it is 'provable'. But that is what I believe is happening here. As I see it, there is no other reasonable explanation that can provide the engine for or the length and the depth of Trump's overt hatred of Obama.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by JimL View PostI'd say two armed white men chasing down a black man with arms in hand is imminent danger.
Given the 'supportive' atmosphere here for the chasers, it needs to be explicitly stated.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post...and it appears the decision to pull the trigger ....The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostI'd say two armed white men chasing down a black man with arms in hand is imminent danger.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostBefore Trump, regardless of party, regardless of policy, Presidents regarded themselves as peers and at least publicly got a along and showed each other respect.Last edited by Mountain Man; 05-20-2020, 09:56 AM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostA fine point of fact, here... it's possible there was no "decision to pull the trigger" --- many times, people will have their finger on the trigger (in TV cop shows, you always see the shooting finger STRAIGHT, alongside the weapon, and NOT on the trigger) and as things get more and more tense, the adrenaline flows, and your hands tighten - causing the trigger finger to contract and the weapon to discharge. NEVER place your finger on the trigger unless you fully intend to fire the weapon.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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