Donald Trump and the Coronavirus

[JimL]

Well - if the people of this country are stupid enough to put him back in office...they can have him. I'll be in New Zealand, Australia, Canada, Norway, Sweden, Tansania, and/or any of a half dozen other places!

The majority didn't put him in office the first time, the outdated electoral college, the republican voter suppression, and the help from his friend Vladimir put him there.

[shunyadragon]

The majority didn't put him in office the first time, the outdated electoral college, the republican voter suppression, and the help from his friend Vladimir put him there.

Voter apathy on the left and high voter numbers on the right contributed to Trumps unfortunate win.

[JimL]

Voter apathy on the left and high voter numbers on the right contributed to Trumps unfortunate win.

Clinton won the majority vote by 3 million, and without the voter suppression tactics of the right she would likely have won by more than that not to mention won the PA., WI, and MI states the losing of which, by a total of some 70,000 votes, ultimately cost her the election.

[Cow Poke]

Clinton won the majority vote by 3 million, and without the voter suppression tactics of the right...

Got a cite for that?

[rogue06]

Voter Suppression: Having the audacity of raising questions about the +110% voter turn out in some districts.

[shunyadragon]

Clinton won the majority vote by 3 million, and without the voter suppression tactics of the right she would likely have won by more than that not to mention won the PA., WI, and MI states the losing of which, by a total of some 70,000 votes, ultimately cost her the election.

Agreed, but it is a fact that a block of voter in Michigan that previously voted for Clinton and Obama did not vote for Hilary Clinton. In fact the statistics show they did not vote. Many do not realize thaey are voting for the party and not necessarily the person and suffer the consequences.

[shunyadragon]

Voter Suppression: Having the audacity of raising questions about the +110% voter turn out in some districts.

Please document. If you are talking about Broward County California in the 2018 general election it is documented as false and 'fake news.' Look it up.

In one district in North Carolina there was documented Republican suppression fraud in an election

[Starlight]

Voter Suppression: Having the audacity of raising questions about the +110% voter turn out in some districts.

Wow you are so disconnected from reality it's wild.

[Sparko]

Well - if the people of this country are stupid enough to put him back in office...they can have him. I'll be in New Zealand, Australia, Canada, Norway, Sweden, Tansania, and/or any of a half dozen other places!

Give China a try.

[JimL]

Give China a try.

Giving China a try is what you're doing by supporting Trump. Why do you think he loves him some dictators so much? He demeans democracy, demeans a free press as fake news, tells you not to believe what you see or hear, demands loyalty to himself over the constitution and country, undermines democratic institutions, cronyism, and fires everyone who speaks truth to his power.

[Sparko]

Giving China a try is what you're doing by supporting Trump. Why do you think he loves him some dictators so much? He demeans democracy, demeans a free press as fake news, tells you not to believe what you see or hear, demands loyalty to himself over the constitution and country, undermines democratic institutions, cronyism, and fires everyone who speaks truth to his power.

You are behind on your talking points JimL. Right now the narrative is "China Good, Trump Bad," because Trump is trying to blame China for the virus and wanting to make them pay for damaging our economy. And he is being too careless with opening up the country, instead of locking it down like a dictator should.

[carpedm9587]

The majority didn't put him in office the first time, the outdated electoral college, the republican voter suppression, and the help from his friend Vladimir put him there.

It is true the majority did not put him there - but there was enough of a minority to do the deed. And if this country cannot take him down in a landslide election after the crap he has pulled (and continues to pull) for the last 3.5 years, and after the devastation that the combination of this pandemic and his mismanagement has wrought on our economy, then this is no longer a desirable country, IMO. It has moved too far from its roots.

[carpedm9587]

Voter Suppression: Having the audacity of raising questions about the +110% voter turn out in some districts.

Source?

[carpedm9587]

Give China a try.

Not on the list, at least not as a citizen or long-time resident. I do intend to visit.

[JimL]

It is true the majority did not put him there - but there was enough of a minority to do the deed. And if this country cannot take him down in a landslide election after the crap he has pulled (and continues to pull) for the last 3.5 years, and after the devastation that the combination of this pandemic and his mismanagement has wrought on our economy, then this is no longer a desirable country, IMO. It has moved too far from its roots.

True, the patriotic, democracy loving, half of the republican constituency is going to have to wake up and smell the treasonous scoundrel they've been duped into putting in the White House. But I don't think it will take a landslide, so long as he's ousted, the decent party faithful will then, I think, return to normalcy and the gun toting, Putin loving, racist, deplorables, that infiltrated the party will slink back into their hiding places where they belong and will always be..