One big problem with socialism is that the government will keep taking money from you when you need to use your money for a bigger disaster happening in your own family. Nothing can be more helpful to you than losing money when you desperately need it for personal emergencies.
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Does Socialism align with Scripture?
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostOne big problem with socialism is that the government will keep taking money from you when you need to use your money for a bigger disaster happening in your own family. Nothing can be more helpful to you than losing money when you desperately need it for personal emergencies.
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostOne big problem with socialism is that the government will keep taking money from you when you need to use your money for a bigger disaster happening in your own family. Nothing can be more helpful to you than losing money when you desperately need it for personal emergencies.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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The role of government today is different from the role of government in the Ancient Near East, as I believe JP Holding has pointed out, so it's difficult to draw one-to-one conclusions. There are principles in Scripture, especially the Old Testament, that are relevant (the gleaning laws, year of Jubilee, the fact that the prophets condemn heavy taxation of the poor), but Acts 2 is certainly not relevant to the conversation about what a government should do. It's just not. Even Ananias and Sapphira a few chapters later were told by Peter that they could have kept the money if they'd wanted to."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by seer View PostAnd I get the feeling that you are an ass Jim...
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostYour mind reading pills are not working again.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYeah, it's MUCH easier to support a government plan to take money away from other people than it is to spend your own time and resources helping out personally, especially when such a tiny percent of that money actually goes to people who actually need it. And I'm not at all in favor of handing out "a few bucks on the street", but providing education, training, job assistance, clothing, food.....
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Originally posted by demi-conservative View PostRegular reminder that Starlight is a joke.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostThe bible doesn't advocate for that distinction, it's something you're bringing to it and reading into it. There's pretty much nothing in the bible about the comparative value of free and voluntary action verses forced-to-do-it.
No. You seem to really believe that, but it's just plain straight out not true.
The vast majority of people I have encountered who advocate for socialist or socialist principles do so because they genuinely care about the plight of those in need. It's based on love and compassion. It's literally that simple.
You all seem really really concerned about the idea that someone might take your money from you, and seem obsessed that it's yours. The traits that come across clearly from you making this the focus of your concerns are greed, selfishness, and love of money. The greed I see here in your post and over and over again among the conservatives in this forum is the selfish love of your own money. Capitalism, is, of course, famously all about greed and tends toward the view that 'greed is good'. Accusing socialists of being greedy seems to me to be projection.
As a socialist I don't want your money or think I should have it. I think the excess wealth of the rich should go to the poor, which isn't me. There's no greed on my part involved. It's a concern for the poor, for the needy, and to right injustices that's the motivation.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostThey were killed for their failure to obey the rules of giving all they had. Pretty sure that wasn't voluntary, and is a rather extreme level of force!
Well Ananias and Saphira are in Acts 5. You're aware they were killed for not conforming?...Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYou seem to think that it's an either or proposition. Supporting government assistance doesn't mean you can't do your own thing as well.Last edited by RumTumTugger; 03-10-2020, 07:27 PM.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSocialization is what spreads Covid-19. Too much socializing goin' on out dere!Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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Originally posted by JimL View PostI don't need to read your minds, I read your words. You don't believe in taxes supporting government policies targeted to the less fortunate, and make up excuses that make you feel better about it."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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One point of disagreement with the tenor of some of the comments earlier: I don't think the biblical injunctions about people taking personal responsiblity to help neighbors means that governments can't help in this role, any more than Psalm 82:3 teaching us to defend the helpless on a personal level means that police forces shouldn't exist."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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