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Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 03-16-2020, 12:08 PM."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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'''''''''''''''Experts''''''''''''''''''''' and their useless numbers.
It's all they have, but the numbers are useless.Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Postthanks.
as for the election, I've been avoiding speculation along those lines. Mainly because there are a lot of people that will die from this. It's just too real for that sort of thing for me.
However, it is very, very sad that allegiance to the ignorance we see in conservative direction may well be a factor in the probability of one's own death ( or the death of friends of family members) from this pandemic.
The recklessness we've observed in presidential briefings, in comments from prominent Republicans (Nunes etc) are nothing less than gross negligence. The extent to which feet are being dragged in deference to various industry lobbyists, even now, and the focus still on playing to the desire for greater profits (e.g. not fully mandating sick leave to relieve the pressure to work while sick) are simply beyond comprehension."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by MaxVel View PostSo if there are, say, 37 known cases, there are probably upwards of 2,500.Originally posted by MaxVel View Post
Lots of people are going to get infected - probably at least 30% up, maybe up to 60%. IF that happens slowly, due to social distancing, lockdowns in hot spots, other mitigating measures, then we're set for 1% or less death rateRemember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Postthanks.
as for the election, I've been avoiding speculation along those lines. Mainly because there are a lot of people that will die from this. It's just too real for that sort of thing for me.
However, it is very, very sad that allegiance to the ignorance we see in conservative direction may well be a factor in the probability of one's own death ( or the death of friends of family members) from this pandemic.
The recklessness we've observed in presidential briefings, in comments from prominent Republicans (Nunes etc) are nothing less than gross negligence. The extent to which feet are being dragged in deference to various industry lobbyists, even now, and the focus still on playing to the desire for greater profits (e.g. not fully mandating sick leave to relieve the pressure to work while sick) are simply beyond comprehension.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostAnd whose fault is that? The media has spent years getting people into a panic, over nothing, so if this turns out to be as bad as worse case suggest, much of the blame lays at the feet at the people that have spent years creating crisis, out of nothing and stroking their fears. When the wolf finally shows up, no one listens.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostI'm not sure what joke you are referring to here. AFAIK, the only posts I fact checked were the ones where you were making an argument. Can you clarify?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostSome disgusting young people are referring to the coronavirus as the "boomer remover"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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It's amazing how the experts all said that Chinese data is crap, then turned on a dime to rely on mainly Chinese data to make their ''''''''''''''''''''expert''''''''''''''''' predictions.
Maybe by now we are starting to get enough good data from Italy. Still, trusting the experts after their nonsense is for the idiotic.Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostSadly - that will likely be true. I guess every cloud has a silver lining. The is a significant possibility that this pandemic will lay to rest the "social security running out of money" problem.
smh.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThe ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWow. really? right after you apologized for being insensitive?
smh.
Frankly, I am IN that higher-risk population. If I get this, at 60+ and with a compromised set of lungs, my probability of succumbing to the virus is not trivial.
ETA: I'll note it's also a reality that this pandemic is tanking the economy and that, coupled with increasingly broad perception that Trump is badly mismanaging this situation, likely means his hopes of re-election in November have just shrunk significantly. I consider that a silver lining. It doesn't mean I WANT the pandemic because it will likely lead to the end of the Trump presidency. Frankly, I wish we HAD competent leadership during this situation. But Trump cannot look past himself to truly see to the needs of anyone else. It's all about the media to him - and the numbers - and how much people like him and are loyal to him.Last edited by carpedm9587; 03-16-2020, 12:31 PM.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by demi-conservative View PostIt's amazing how the experts all said that Chinese data is crap, then turned on a dime to rely on mainly Chinese data to make their ''''''''''''''''''''expert''''''''''''''''' predictions.
Maybe by now we are starting to get enough good data from Italy. Still, trusting the experts after their nonsense is for the idiotic.
I'm just looking at what I see happening in the real world and making the best decisions I can for me and my family.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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