Originally posted by oxmixmudd
View Post
Announcement
Collapse
Civics 101 Guidelines
Want to argue about politics? Healthcare reform? Taxes? Governments? You've come to the right place!
Try to keep it civil though. The rules still apply here.
Try to keep it civil though. The rules still apply here.
See more
See less
Coronavirus Outbreak...
Collapse
X
-
Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
-
Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostWhat you mean to say is that you, apparently, are not capable of objectively evaluating your own biases, and you assume, incorrectly, that everybody shares your deficiency. I realize now that your third question -- "How do you keep those internal biases from making you dishonest in your self assessment?" -- was not a question but, rather, a confession. It seems you are one of those people who really doesn't know when he's being dishonest with himself (it also explains why you are so casually hypocritical). As I said, this is something for you to work through on your own. I do not have any advice to offer you.
Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI do not have any advice to offer you.
Comment
-
Originally posted by Charles View PostSo, first we should be aware that baises are always present. Then we should figure out why we feel a certain way about something. Is that "finding out" biased or not biased? If we should expect them not to be biased, your first statement that we should be aware that biases are always present does not hold. If indeed our "finding out" is biased, our ability to "figure out" is limited by default. And then your statement "Everything you think and feel is informed by your knowledge and life experiences, and it's generally not difficult to figure out what those are." should be seen in the light of that. How do you know it is not difficult to figure out how your knowledge and life experience is influencing you when you admit you are always biased? The idea that it is, indeed, knowledge and experience that guides you, is itself biased according to your own line of "reasoning".
You see? Contradictions everywhere. Perhaps your biases made it impossible for you to see them. It did sound good though, but you had not really thought out the consequences of what you were sayingSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
Comment
-
Originally posted by Roy View PostWow. The projection is strong enough to display a logo on the moon."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
Comment
-
Originally posted by Roy View PostMy emphasis:Carp says they aren't even close, and that they don't even begin to compare. Lilpix reads that as they are even close. Seeing what is expected or desired, not what is actually there. It explains a lot.Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 04-22-2020, 10:31 AM."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
Comment
-
Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostYou have successfully pegged your caricature, Pix. Congratulations. Most of this has little/nothing to do with anything I've said or behavior I've exhibited, so I have no further response.ETA: BTW, what exactly is 24/7/366? Seven days a week on every leap year?"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
Comment
-
Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostShe actually does this consistently - which is why I describe it as Pix arguing with the caricature in her mind. She takes the reverse of what I have said, arbitrarily decides which parts of my post are and are not important, and ignores things I have actually said and done - all of this builds up to this "Boogeyman Carpe" in her mind, which she then flails away at.
I've come to believe she's just not going to see it. The "Boogeyman Carpe" has become reality for her.Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 04-22-2020, 10:40 AM."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
Comment
-
You have (again) taken the quote out of its context, eliminating the part that explains the more significant way in which they are NOT the same. You and MM do this a lot.
If you keep flailing away at the Boogeyman Carpe caricature you have created, you aren't really responding to what I have actually said.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
Comment
-
No, it doesn't mean that. Not even when taken out of context, as you just did.
If I thought you'd listen or understand I'd say more, but I don't think that, so I'll not waste my time.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
Comment
-
Let me know when you are ready to stop quote mining to reinforce the caricature you've created.
Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostIs this year a leap year?The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
Comment
-
Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostYou have (again) taken the quote out of its context, eliminating the part that explains the more significant way in which they are NOT the same. You and MM do this a lot.
If you keep flailing away at the Boogeyman Carpe caricature you have created, you aren't really responding to what I have actually said.
If given the means, do you believe Trump would commit genocide? Yes or no?"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
Comment
-
More is required than just means, even for a Hitler. There must be a target of the hate that would drive person to that action. Has Trump demonstrated the sort of hatred towards an entire group of people that could be a place from which which a genocide could arise? I'm not sure I've seen that from him at this point, though his hatred of immigrants I believe to be a red flag that says 'caution here'.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
Comment
-
Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostLet me know when you are ready to stop quote mining to reinforce the caricature you've created.
Yes."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
Comment
-
Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI'm reminded of the classic Shakespeare quote (altered here to make it gender appropriate), "The lad doth protest too much, methinks." All this tells us is that you yourself are incapable of an honest self-assessment, and not that everybody is.
You can find it here: http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post730890
Comment
-
Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostMore is required than just means, even for a Hitler. There must be a target of the hate that would drive person to that action. Has Trump demonstrated the sort of hatred towards and entire group of people that could be a place from which which a genocide could arise? I'm not sure I've seen that from him at this point, though his hatred of immigrants I believe to be a red flag that says 'caution here'."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
Comment
Related Threads
Collapse
Topics | Statistics | Last Post | ||
---|---|---|---|---|
Started by Cow Poke, Today, 11:24 AM
|
0 responses
6 views
0 likes
|
Last Post
by Cow Poke
Today, 11:24 AM
|
||
Started by carpedm9587, Today, 09:13 AM
|
3 responses
28 views
0 likes
|
Last Post
by rogue06
Today, 09:42 AM
|
||
Started by Cow Poke, Yesterday, 09:15 AM
|
3 responses
54 views
0 likes
|
Last Post
by rogue06
Yesterday, 04:26 PM
|
||
Started by CivilDiscourse, 06-01-2024, 04:11 PM
|
14 responses
99 views
0 likes
|
Last Post
by Sparko
Today, 08:11 AM
|
||
Started by seer, 06-01-2024, 03:50 PM
|
2 responses
54 views
0 likes
|
Last Post
by seer
Yesterday, 06:35 AM
|
Comment