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  • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    No-one is capable of objectively evaluating their own biases.
    What you mean to say is that you, apparently, are not capable of objectively evaluating your own biases, and you assume, incorrectly, that everybody shares your deficiency. I realize now that your third question -- "How do you keep those internal biases from making you dishonest in your self assessment?" -- was not a question but, rather, a confession. It seems you are one of those people who really doesn't know when he's being dishonest with himself (it also explains why you are so casually hypocritical). As I said, this is something for you to work through on your own. I do not have any advice to offer you.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      What you mean to say is that you, apparently, are not capable of objectively evaluating your own biases, and you assume, incorrectly, that everybody shares your deficiency. I realize now that your third question -- "How do you keep those internal biases from making you dishonest in your self assessment?" -- was not a question but, rather, a confession. It seems you are one of those people who really doesn't know when he's being dishonest with himself (it also explains why you are so casually hypocritical). As I said, this is something for you to work through on your own. I do not have any advice to offer you.
      As I have pointed out your thinking on this ares is contradictory: http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post730890

      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      I do not have any advice to offer you.
      Nope. You are not yet at the point where you even understand the problem. Your "understanding" as presented in your posts in this very thread is contradictory.

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      • Originally posted by Charles View Post
        So, first we should be aware that baises are always present. Then we should figure out why we feel a certain way about something. Is that "finding out" biased or not biased? If we should expect them not to be biased, your first statement that we should be aware that biases are always present does not hold. If indeed our "finding out" is biased, our ability to "figure out" is limited by default. And then your statement "Everything you think and feel is informed by your knowledge and life experiences, and it's generally not difficult to figure out what those are." should be seen in the light of that. How do you know it is not difficult to figure out how your knowledge and life experience is influencing you when you admit you are always biased? The idea that it is, indeed, knowledge and experience that guides you, is itself biased according to your own line of "reasoning".

        You see? Contradictions everywhere. Perhaps your biases made it impossible for you to see them. It did sound good though, but you had not really thought out the consequences of what you were saying
        I'm reminded of the classic Shakespeare quote (altered here to make it gender appropriate), "The lad doth protest too much, methinks." All this tells us is that you yourself are incapable of an honest self-assessment, and not that everybody is.
        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
        Than a fool in the eyes of God


        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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        • Originally posted by Roy View Post
          Wow. The projection is strong enough to display a logo on the moon.
          Sayeth the Nitpicker, that rarely has anything to contribute.
          "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
          GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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          • Originally posted by Roy View Post
            My emphasis:Carp says they aren't even close, and that they don't even begin to compare. Lilpix reads that as they are even close. Seeing what is expected or desired, not what is actually there. It explains a lot.
            Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 04-22-2020, 10:31 AM.
            "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
            GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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            • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
              You have successfully pegged your caricature, Pix. Congratulations. Most of this has little/nothing to do with anything I've said or behavior I've exhibited, so I have no further response.
              ETA: BTW, what exactly is 24/7/366? Seven days a week on every leap year?
              Is this year a leap year?
              "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
              GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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              • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                She actually does this consistently - which is why I describe it as Pix arguing with the caricature in her mind. She takes the reverse of what I have said, arbitrarily decides which parts of my post are and are not important, and ignores things I have actually said and done - all of this builds up to this "Boogeyman Carpe" in her mind, which she then flails away at.

                I've come to believe she's just not going to see it. The "Boogeyman Carpe" has become reality for her.
                Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 04-22-2020, 10:40 AM.
                "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                • You have (again) taken the quote out of its context, eliminating the part that explains the more significant way in which they are NOT the same. You and MM do this a lot.

                  If you keep flailing away at the Boogeyman Carpe caricature you have created, you aren't really responding to what I have actually said.
                  The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                  I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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                  • No, it doesn't mean that. Not even when taken out of context, as you just did.

                    If I thought you'd listen or understand I'd say more, but I don't think that, so I'll not waste my time.
                    Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

                    MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
                    MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

                    seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...

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                    • Let me know when you are ready to stop quote mining to reinforce the caricature you've created.

                      Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                      Is this year a leap year?
                      Yes.
                      The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                      I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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                      • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                        You have (again) taken the quote out of its context, eliminating the part that explains the more significant way in which they are NOT the same. You and MM do this a lot.

                        If you keep flailing away at the Boogeyman Carpe caricature you have created, you aren't really responding to what I have actually said.
                        Still no answer,

                        If given the means, do you believe Trump would commit genocide? Yes or no?
                        "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                        GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                        • More is required than just means, even for a Hitler. There must be a target of the hate that would drive person to that action. Has Trump demonstrated the sort of hatred towards an entire group of people that could be a place from which which a genocide could arise? I'm not sure I've seen that from him at this point, though his hatred of immigrants I believe to be a red flag that says 'caution here'.
                          My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                          If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                          This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                          • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                            Let me know when you are ready to stop quote mining to reinforce the caricature you've created.



                            Yes.
                            "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                            GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                            • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                              I'm reminded of the classic Shakespeare quote (altered here to make it gender appropriate), "The lad doth protest too much, methinks." All this tells us is that you yourself are incapable of an honest self-assessment, and not that everybody is.
                              It appears you still have not understood that your approach is contradictory since you still seem to think you can determine who is capable of self-assesment and who is not. I made no claims about myself. I only pointed out, which I have also demonstrated, that your "method" is contadictory. Based on that it is no surpise you cannot offer advice. And, unfortunately, it is neither a surprise that you would rather focus on my person than dealing with the points made ragarding your contradictions.

                              You can find it here: http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post730890

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                              • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                                More is required than just means, even for a Hitler. There must be a target of the hate that would drive person to that action. Has Trump demonstrated the sort of hatred towards and entire group of people that could be a place from which which a genocide could arise? I'm not sure I've seen that from him at this point, though his hatred of immigrants I believe to be a red flag that says 'caution here'.
                                "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                                GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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